A Must Read

bellzisu

Well-Known Member
Apr 15, 2006
6,941
615
113
Norwalk
I can see that. I keep forgetting that I'm on a message board and that I need to dumb down my logic to a lower level.

original response I see.... yeah please dumb it down.. He is on a private board that lets the public use it as long as you don't break a rule.

So he didn't break a rule, and he was in line, what are you getting at??
 

jdonohue

New Member
Oct 1, 2009
5
0
1
Yes, they were disgusting, low, and uncalled for. Unfortunately, they were pretty much right on
 

bellzisu

Well-Known Member
Apr 15, 2006
6,941
615
113
Norwalk
From what the kid said in his letter, it's obvious that he doesn't have the cure for cancer. (or even a basketball analogy for it) :biggrin:

Sure, the kid might someday have that kind of money, but it's likely that a) Pollard will be long gone by then, and b) it will never happen unless something substantial changes in the direction of the kid's life because based on his thoughts and communication skills, it's HIGHLY unlikely that he'll ever get there without recognizing just how far out of bounds his letter was.

From the tone of the letter, it's safe to say that the kid never expected a response.

I hate to say this but at the age of 20 I made alot of stupid comments to alot of different people.. Yeah hard to believe. I think alot of us would of wrote something similar at that age.

Heck 3/4 of the people on this site over the age of 40 would write something just as far out of bounds.

I do get what your saying though.
 

Cymon

Well-Known Member
Apr 10, 2006
1,041
-53
83
Ankeny
Amusing, but really, you feel the same as I do. Just because I don't throw on a Cardinal and Gold tee-shirt doesn't mean you can't agree with me. Contrary to popular belief, every Iowa fan doesn't hate ISU. Hate if you want, but I'm not saying anything that isn't being said already by your own fanbase...

I agree with everything you have just posted. The difference is that I don't head to Hawkeye Report and give Hawkeye fans my opinion. You know why? Because I don't care about the Hawkeyes. I have nothing invested with them.
 

usedcarguy

Well-Known Member
Apr 12, 2008
5,556
1,581
113
Ames
Do I not have an opinion? Like I stated above, if my screen name said anything other than "Hawk" this would not be a problem. I am only stating what other ISU fans feel. As a business major I feel that this is wrong. JP is the equivalent of a CEO. You should never call out your customer base in that position. Hands down. Me being a Hawk means nothing in this argument.

As a Business major, you probably haven't learned it yet, and it's possible that in school you won't. Simply put, the customer is NOT always right, and sometimes it's you have to fire a customer. If you try to make everyone happy, you'll make no one happy.

As a CEO, he is choosing to build a customer base of season ticket holders and donors. Unprofitable customers will sink a business. And without season ticket holders and donors, it is an unprofitable business. He simply asked him to buy season tickets and donate instead of ********. I really don't see this as either being a bad thing or disrespectful.
 

aauummm

July is National Bison Month
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 29, 2007
6,810
3,470
113
I get around
Congrats?
Actually, in the past, you've seemed pretty reasonable to me. It's about stepping into the middle of something that we are talking about. If I were to go to the Hawkeye lounge and start spouting off about a Hawk AD, I'd probably get a pretty cold reception. No different here.
 
Nov 23, 2008
377
23
18
45
Norwalk via Marshalltown
As a Business major, you probably haven't learned it yet, and it's possible that in school you won't. Simply put, the customer is NOT always right, and sometimes it's you have to fire a customer. If you try to make everyone happy, you'll make no one happy.

As a CEO, he is choosing to build a customer base of season ticket holders and donors. Unprofitable customers will sink a business. And without season ticket holders and donors, it is an unprofitable business. He simply asked him to buy season tickets and donate instead of ********. I really don't see this as either being a bad thing or disrespectful.

So would a car salesman tell a guy who comes in looking for cheap used Cavalier either buy a Cadillac or get the hell of my lot? Every fan starts somewhere whether it be buying a ticket here and there to buying an ISU t-shirt or whatever. Our e-mailing friend may be a poor 20 year old college student today but may be a rich business owner in 10-15 years. That guy you sold a Cavalier to may come back in five years and buy a $50,000 car. You don't know. So why alienate him?
 

usedcarguy

Well-Known Member
Apr 12, 2008
5,556
1,581
113
Ames
I hate to say this but at the age of 20 I made alot of stupid comments to alot of different people.. Yeah hard to believe. I think alot of us would of wrote something similar at that age.

Heck 3/4 of the people on this site over the age of 40 would write something just as far out of bounds.

I do get what your saying though.

I agree. The biggest difference between what a 20 year old and a 40 year old will say is that the 40 year old will tone it down if it's not anonymous.

I'm in sales, and rule #1 is that discussing politics and religion will cost you money. That's why I come here to vent. :wink:
 

aauummm

July is National Bison Month
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 29, 2007
6,810
3,470
113
I get around
Without "the public" this board wouldn't exist. This board doesn't charge anyone any amount of money, and is open to the public. Like a public park, anyone can read and/or post on this board.
You ever try to explain nuclear physics to a caterpillar? Try it some time.
 
Nov 23, 2008
377
23
18
45
Norwalk via Marshalltown
Actually, in the past, you've seemed pretty reasonable to me. It's about stepping into the middle of something that we are talking about. If I were to go to the Hawkeye lounge and start spouting off about a Hawk AD, I'd probably get a pretty cold reception. No different here.

If you had a point, I would expect the same reaction that I am getting here. Some agree some don't. But agree or disagree with me because of my points and not because of my affiliation. By the way our AD is a quivering panzy that has no balls. Just my two cents.
 

Cymon

Well-Known Member
Apr 10, 2006
1,041
-53
83
Ankeny
So would a car salesman tell a guy who comes in looking for cheap used Cavalier either buy a Cadillac or get the hell of my lot? Every fan starts somewhere whether it be buying a ticket here and there to buying an ISU t-shirt or whatever. Our e-mailing friend may be a poor 20 year old college student today but may be a rich business owner in 10-15 years. That guy you sold a Cavalier to may come back in five years and buy a $50,000 car. You don't know. So why alienate him?


Once again...why do you care? Are you a closet Cyclone fan?
 

aauummm

July is National Bison Month
SuperFanatic
SuperFanatic T2
Mar 29, 2007
6,810
3,470
113
I get around
original response I see.... yeah please dumb it down.. He is on a private board that lets the public use it as long as you don't break a rule.

So he didn't break a rule, and he was in line, what are you getting at??
Yep, you got it! Man, this is getting to be one long thread and how this "public" thing started was a long way back. It was between Frak and Hawk and Hawk basically said that he could come on here and say anything he wanted because it's a public forum.
 

bellzisu

Well-Known Member
Apr 15, 2006
6,941
615
113
Norwalk
I agree. The biggest difference between what a 20 year old and a 40 year old will say is that the 40 year old will tone it down if it's not anonymous.

I'm in sales, and rule #1 is that discussing politics and religion will cost you money. That's why I come here to vent. :wink:

I know what you mean... Although when I was in sales talking politics sometimes helped. Then again I worked with farmers so all politics are trying to screw them over.

You are right though... Someone older would tone it down if they were leaving their real name and such.
 

usedcarguy

Well-Known Member
Apr 12, 2008
5,556
1,581
113
Ames
So would a car salesman tell a guy who comes in looking for cheap used Cavalier either buy a Cadillac or get the hell of my lot? Every fan starts somewhere whether it be buying a ticket here and there to buying an ISU t-shirt or whatever. Our e-mailing friend may be a poor 20 year old college student today but may be a rich business owner in 10-15 years. That guy you sold a Cavalier to may come back in five years and buy a $50,000 car. You don't know. So why alienate him?



Your analogy is a poor one. This kid reminds me of someone who comes on my lot and complains about the tires, dings, rock chips, etc. whil driving a car that's worth about $600 bucks. Sure, he may be a buyer some day, but unless he's going to actually buy something after trashing every car on my lot, I'm going to kick him to the curb, regardless of whether or not he may be a real buyer someday. If he's respectful, I'll give him the moon and stars.

It's obvious that his beef is with Pollard. If he makes it big someday, and he is a TRUE fan, he'll contribute, allthough it may not happen until Pollard is gone.
 

Latest posts

Help Support Us

Become a patron