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brianhos

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The US needs to take a hard line on farm subsidies. They give out too much tax payer money to these massive farms. I am in favor of a 20% cut on ALL federal programs, no exceptions.
 

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The related article from the Washington Post: LINK


FEE post (includes links to San Francisco Chronicle article, “Pelosi Takes Heat for Stand on Farm Bill,” and article by George Mason University economist Russell Roberts, “What Do Farmers Want from Me?”):
Farm-Subsidy Bill Goes to Full House | News & Commentary | The Foundation for Economic Education: In Brief

University of San Diego economist James D. Hamilton on ethanol:
Econbrowser: Ethanol and food price volatility
 
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That is a huge problem with the current USDA program. The bigger the farm, the larger the "help" check. Fewer family farms can survive every year because the "rich get richer"! I hope the new farm bill, which takes effect in 2009 I think, addresses these problems...
 

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Here is another that pisses me off. My neighbor has a $40K pickup truck that has never seen dirt. His registration is what $20. My VW costs $250/year.
 

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That is a huge problem with the current USDA program. The bigger the farm, the larger the "help" check. Fewer family farms can survive every year because the "rich get richer"! I hope the new farm bill, which takes effect in 2009 I think, addresses these problems...

With the high grain prices right now, the subsidies are way down.
 

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I agree clone52, the current grain prices are above the posted county rates for LDP payments, which is a great thing. But IMHO the ethanol boom will be relatively short lived and we will be facing the same situation of unprofitable prices for commodities. Maybe the current system of paying farmers for the amount they produce could be changed to a value based compensation or land stewardship? Just some thoughts...
 

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Here is another that pisses me off. My neighbor has a $40K pickup truck that has never seen dirt. His registration is what $20. My VW costs $250/year.

Here here, that really pisses me off too. All trucks should be taxed based on weight unless you can show they are being used as part of a business.
 

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Here is another that pisses me off. My neighbor has a $40K pickup truck that has never seen dirt. His registration is what $20. My VW costs $250/year.

Actually, I think he pays a whopping $65 unless it's changed from my days on the farm nearly a decade ago.
 

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I don't disagree with you - yet that's not his fault at all. He's actually using the situation to his advantage - can't fault him for that.

I'm considering getting a truck in the spring. I won't complain one bit about a $65/year registration fee should I go that route.
 

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I don't disagree with you - yet that's not his fault at all. He's actually using the situation to his advantage - can't fault him for that.

I'm considering getting a truck in the spring. I won't complain one bit about a $65/year registration fee should I go that route.

But will you complain when gas goes to $5? I am looking at cars, and I cannot find anything nice that gets good gas mileage. Every car maker seems to want to throw 300 HP engines even in small cars.
 

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Your farmer neighbor may only be paying $65 for his pickup but remember that he is also paying $1500 on the truck he uses to haul the grain that feeds and fuels the world.

I do not agree with government subsidies and factory farms but most farmers are great hard working americans who deserve to be compensated for the huge responsiblity of putting food on your table.
 

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Key word is considering. If gas is anywhere close to where it is now (which it likely will be)...a car will be my choice.
 

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Your farmer neighbor may only be paying $65 for his pickup but remember that he is also paying $1500 on the truck he uses to haul the grain that feeds and fuels the world.

I don't think that was the point, it is my neighbors F150 in ankeny that he pulls a boat around with. Or even better my bro in laws F150 that has never pulled anything, the most it has hauled is when he moved a friends couch. That should be $400, not my uncles farm truck.
 

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I don't think that was the point, it is my neighbors F150 in ankeny that he pulls a boat around with. Or even better my bro in laws F150 that has never pulled anything, the most it has hauled is when he moved a friends couch. That should be $400, not my uncles farm truck.
I agree, should have to be registered as a farm vehicle. Other states have different registrations for trucks.
 

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