This is what I meant -- they just seem worn mentally and physically.
I'm sure getting jobbed in Lawrence didn't help team morale, too.
Worst offense in the Big 12?
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This is what I meant -- they just seem worn mentally and physically.
I'm sure getting jobbed in Lawrence didn't help team morale, too.
I don't remember a team (yes even last years -yikes) that has so many telegraphed passes stolen or balls poked away from behind. Right now we seem to be very easy for teams to guard, and that's not good. And increases the team's frustration level.
I'm not sure the game in Lawrence had much to do with what we're witnessing. Cyclone teams are conditioned to getting jobbed down there, plus they followed that game up with arguably their best game of the year v. Texas
Conditt is a disaster when he gets the ball up around the free throw line. He can't make a decision on where to go with it and holds the ball for way too long. It completely kills the set we are trying to run.
Very few of the guys on this year's team had played in Lawrence previously.
Very few of even the best Iowa State teams have a lead under 0:30 and a great look at the buzzer to win.
Yeah yeah the Phog has plenty of horror stories but mostly blowouts, not incredibly close losses.
I just think these guys are human, and it is showing.
Yep and honestly at the start of the year he wasn’t that bad but that was because our actions were better and guys were able to get off their man for either a cut or a handoff. Now guys are being taught essentially to deny any sort of pass from our wings and it takes us completely out of our offense.
The last 3 games we have not turned teams over and scored easy baskets. The ISU half court offense is terrible. Don't know how anyone could slice that another way.
And although it was earlier in the year before teams could really find the formula to counter ISU, when he's just playing it goes better.
He's back to thinking instead of just reacting which is too bad because he looked ready to really let it all out there with a new regime.
Offensively, this is what I was worried about going into the year and in the nonconference. We have zero post up threats. I mean, Conditt and Jones have good size, but they are a disaster posting up. A FR PG that can penetrate and dish, but is a streaky shooter at best and prone to FR inconsistency. Kalcheur at 2 is the definition of streaky and inconsistent. Our 4's can't really create for themselves and are prone to disappearing. And our best player is so left hand dominant that teams have scouted him out and he has yet to adjust. Grill and Jackson can both get hot, but it usually only happens once every few games. That's just not a good recipe to score points...depending on streaky shooters and steals and run outs. You can only win so much on effort. At some point, you need some offensive skill and guys that can hit open shots.
Nothing we can really do about it this year. Just hope Kalcheur starts hitting again and Brockington figures out how to go right.
Nothing we can really do about it this year. Just hope Kalcheur starts hitting again and Brockington figures out how to go right.
I hate to say this yet --
Most of the rotation consists of players who are known commodities at this point. Most of them have at least some upsides to their offensive game (e.g., Brockington really is great with his left hand, Kalscheur can fill it up when he's hot, and Conditt rolls well to the basket, etc.), but most of them are priced into the model now with well-defined strengths and weaknesses. Ones opposing teams are game planning around.
I would say there are only two players on the current roster who have much upside from what we have seen. Those are Hunter and Enaruna. The other guys were high-floor, low-ceiling options that TJ brought in to jumpstart the program after 1.5 dismal years while waiting for Hunter, Enaruna, and Foster (when he was still a Cyclone) to mature and while giving time for TJ's recruiting to bring some dudes to Ames.
The offense is more-or-less what we thought it would be before this season. And while that offense is the sum of its relatively meager parts, the defense is still really good. The fact the season has had the successes it has so far is because the defense is way more than the sum of its parts, which does give some credibility to the coaching staff to me, especially Kyle Green. Torvik adjusted defense against the Big 12...
94.2
65.6
111.9
81.7
94.6
95.6
89.5
Besides the blowout in the second half of the Oklahoma game, the defense has been rock solid. Numbers like that should be enough to win games. They held TCU to 59 -- usually you think if you can keep a team under 60 you have a good chance to win. But maybe it has to be more like 50 now to win games.
It is a good roster and team, but one with its flaws, which all have save a few national title contenders. Still impressive for the first year, but the Big 12 is merciless in exposing your shortcomings.
Obviously Brockington's midrange game is elite, but he has to make a concerted effort to get to the hoop. If they're overplaying his left, find a move to the right. He finally did it in the 2nd half against TCU, and he got an easy and 1. The midrange is great, but he was playing more downhill earlier in the season.
Yeah the midrange is nice but he needs to put more pressure on the defense and maybe get others involved or a foul.
Tends to step right for a jumper and it's been somewhat successful I'm not sure it's reliable.
The offense will get better when the offensive talent of the inside players improves 400%. Hopefully next year with transfers.
Easier to post this after a win, but we knew the offense would struggle. We take care of business this weekend and we're 16-5 which anybody on this board would have taken 16 wins for the SEASON no questions asked in October. We know the offense isn't great, there are still opportunities for them to improve, but this team should get a pass this year.
I will have to pay more attention. I have mostly noticed the effort, strong defense and rebounding, and we seem to throw the ball between players on offense; I heard it is called "passing". Like a semi-colon, what is passing for?
Our big men did a great job making decisions out top, which I think keyed some of the offensive improvement. 9 assists between Conditt and Jones.
Our main issue is that we need someone to start breaking down the defense off the dribble. Hunter is the best on the team at it, but can sometimes turn it over in traffic or make bad decisions (expected for a freshman PG). I think at times it's worth taking that risk when our offense is stalling out.
Our main issue is that we need someone to start breaking down the defense off the dribble. Hunter is the best on the team at it, but can sometimes turn it over in traffic or make bad decisions (expected for a freshman PG). I think at times it's worth taking that risk when our offense is stalling out.
