Williams & Blum today- FB attendance

madguy30

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What was going on in ‘21?

The season after the most accomplished ISU team ever with lots of guys back.

Even KU that season with the rain was pretty packed but I don't believe it was sold out.

I'm genuinely asking if mid conference games were sold out that season on the regular.

IIRC outside of Iowa, UNI, and UT/OU ISU has a hard time selling out conference games but could be wrong.
 
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While I agree, I think this is definitely more true for basketball than football. Basketball has a lot more constant action, even with the timeouts, and its half the time commitment.
And indoors….
 

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I'll preface everything by saying that it's extremely likely that we sell out this game.

That being said, I don't blame somebody for not wanting to spend hundreds of dollars (after accounting for tickets, parking, concessions, etc.) to be in a nosebleed watching the 2-3 Baylor Bears come to town.

It's expensive, it's hot, the opponent isn't that exciting (for the casual fan), and honestly, you get a better view of the game watching on TV.

I don't really think that most fans are holding off from buying tickets out of frustration for also donating to We Will or to the athletic department. That may have an effect on overall season tickets, but I think for a single game that's not really a big factor.

Personally, I've been to (nearly) every home game in the last 25 years, and I have some of my best memories from being inside the stadium for some of the classic moments (Seneca vs TTU.. 2011 OSU/Iowa, 2017 TCU, killing the vampire in 2018, the birth of the Juicy Wiggle vs WVU, etc. etc.). To me, nothing beats being in the stadium for those moments.

But honestly, in some ways it's also REALLY nice to just have a smaller family gathering to watch away games on tv.
 

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Sorry, the educated fan doesn’t give a rip about last year. The educated fan sees the potential of the team this year, and understands that last year was last year. Was it disappointing losing to Ohio and Memphis, sure, but we have an opportunity to make a CCG/playoff game, and you rotters are still playing the “We LoSt To TwO g5 sCHoOlS lAsT YeAr”

Find a new Schtick
I guess our fans aren’t that educated. I mean, if you don’t think pas results don’t impact season tickets, not sure there’s much else to say.
 

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The season after the most accomplished ISU team ever with lots of guys back.

Even KU that season with the rain was pretty packed but I don't believe it was sold out.

I'm genuinely asking if mid conference games were sold out that season on the regular.

IIRC outside of Iowa, UNI, and UT/OU ISU has a hard time selling out conference games but could be wrong.
Yeah. Think back to 2021 and consider what could’ve impacted ticket sales.
 

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Not to mention basketball prices and donor costs are competing for scarce dollars for a lot of people.

I’ve had several years with kids stuff on Saturdays, so haven’t had season tix in a while. Looking forward to getting them again, but damn it’s a lot of work. Wife and I like to walk to the games, which is a nice luxury.

Basketball is no cakewalk to get to with the weather often questionable. There are times we have tix and it feels like a pain to go. But man, my daughter and I went to the blizzard Houston game last year, and what a great memory.
 

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As someone entering their 30’s and starting a family, even with my wife and I having above average paying jobs, disposable income is very hard to come by in this economy. Every dollar matters.

I can make the occasional game and small donations to WeWill make sense, but it’s hard to save enough to buy into the whole football season ecosystem.
 

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I guess our fans aren’t that educated. I mean, if you don’t think pas results don’t impact season tickets, not sure there’s much else to say.
Yeah? Explain 2023 to me then. Sold second most ever, after going 4-8
 

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We’re simply debating what impacts season ticket sales aren’t we?

I'm not sure if it goes beyond the idea that ISU doesn't regularly sell out conference games.
 

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I think that if you're the kind of person, like myself, who just loves the atmosphere of the crowd and being in person to see the big plays then going to the games is just kind of in your blood. As I get older however and it becomes more expensive the juice isn't as good for the squeeze. If ISU starts winning 10 or 11 games a year that would become a lot easier of a choice but I don't foresee it getting cheaper to participate in person.

The TV timeouts really have ruined the game environments in person though. They're unbearable if the game is one of those clunkers where no one is finding a rhythm. Big play and change of possession. Time out. The worst is just received a punt. TO. Score on a big play. TO. Extra point. TO. Kick off TO. Just obnoxious.
 

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People were jacked up to get back in person so I'm not sure if that was it.

This shows big numbers, but not all official sell outs.


Are there other seasons that mid-tier conference games sold out?
So we’re seriously arguing my assertion that if we would’ve beaten Ohio and Memphis we would’ve sold more tickets this year? Is that where we’re at?
 

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I think that if you're the kind of person, like myself, who just loves the atmosphere of the crowd and being in person to see the big plays then going to the games is just kind of in your blood. As I get older however and it becomes more expensive the juice isn't as good for the squeeze. If ISU starts winning 10 or 11 games a year that would become a lot easier of a choice but I don't foresee it getting cheaper to participate in person.

The TV timeouts really have ruined the game environments in person though. They're unbearable if the game is one of those clunkers where no one is finding a rhythm. Big play and change of possession. Time out. The worst is just received a punt. TO. Score on a big play. TO. Extra point. TO. Kick off TO. Just obnoxious.

This is my argument for how seeing baseball live isn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be as far as game flow is concerned.

Basically after a big play the game moves on right after. Like for a home run, the new batter is up soon after the hitter crosses home plate regardless of what the crowd is doing.
 

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So we’re seriously arguing my assertion that if we would’ve beaten Ohio and Memphis we would’ve sold more tickets this year? Is that where we’re at?

Are you (still) angry about those games? Do you have any way of knowing this?