Williams & Blum today- FB attendance

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Because the world is more expensive than ever and everyone has their limits. No Iowa on the home schedule hurts. It certainly has nothing to do with losing to Ohio and Memphis. Dear God.
It might not have a great impact, but to say losing those games didn't affect season tickets sales would be ignorant, especially when once of them was the last game of the season. It certainly had an impact. Arguing how great of an impact is a whole other argument.
 

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Same for me with occasional high school games (and obviously less everything including time).

No reviews or super long diliberation over calls, no in between quarters nonsense. Just move on and play.

It’s frustrating seeing college games take 4 hours to complete when you turn on the NFL the next day and watch all their games completed within their allotted time slot.

Outside of OT or weather there’s no good excuse for college games to drag out the way they’ve let TV do to them.
 

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It might not have a great impact, but to say losing those games didn't affect season tickets sales would be ignorant, especially when once of them was the last game of the season. It certainly had an impact. Arguing how great of an impact is a whole other argument.
There’s a mountain of data (some examples in this thread already) that disproves this theory. Sorry but it didn’t have an impact outside of the ten people who actually didn’t get tickets due to that. And that’s NOT an impact. The number of people on the forums (small amount mind you) hung up on the result of a pointless game in Memphis is bizarre.
 
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Yeah. I’d rather beat G5 teams than lose to them. Why do you think season ticket sales dropped off?

Well, sure we'd all like to see ISU win those games. Those that are seething about it a year later is quite the approach though.

Has there been much of a drop off?

It looks like the most people ever for Baylor will be there Saturday...so I guess things aren't as bad as some would like.
 

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I guess I dont understand why its a big deal? It’s 300 seats. Not 3,000 or 30,000 empty seats. 300 out of 63,000 wont change the atmosphere for this game
stadium is 61,500. But if it is only 300 seats left, your point stands. I guess when Chris and Brent did there podcast it was 3500 unsold.
 

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Folks, we haven't sold out a game against a school from Texas who isn't UT since expanding JTS. We're on the precipice of doing just that, despite having a larger season ticket deficit to make up than we've had recently.

Yes, the economy is rough.
Yes, the home slate is dull.
Yes, more and more is being asked of fans.
Yes, the game environment is getting worse, especially compared to the TV product.

In spite of all of that, we've already more tickets than we ever have for an opponent like Baylor. We're still doing really well, and better than most in comparable shoes.
 

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stadium is 61,500. But if it is only 300 seats left, your point stands. I guess when Chris and Brent did there podcast it was 3500 unsold.
I thought they said only 500 remaining during their pod? They even mentioned it was a possibility it would be sold out by the time it was posted to Spotify and such.

I know from people manually counting the unsold seats on TicketMaster we've slowly gone from 500ish to 300ish unsold tickets throughout this week.
 

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Folks, we haven't sold out a game against a school from Texas who isn't UT since expanding JTS. We're on the precipice of doing just that, despite having a larger season ticket deficit to make up than we've had recently.

Yes, the economy is rough.
Yes, the home slate is dull.
Yes, more and more is being asked of fans.
Yes, the game environment is getting worse, especially compared to the TV product.

In spite of all of that, we've already more tickets than we ever have for an opponent like Baylor. We're still doing really well, and better than most in comparable shoes.

Do you know the difference in season tickets sold this year vs. other years?

Google didn't show me anything immediate or I'm just looking in the wrong places.
 

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For me: I can't afford season tickets currently, and I live in Wisconsin anyway, so. But, usually I like to go to 1 or 2 games a year.

I check on the re-sale sites, and it is insane how much it costs for nosebleeds. To be perfectly honest I'm not sure I can rationalize paying that much to sit all the way up and sit through a million TV timeouts, pay for freaking water, and get my ears blown out by the ****** speakers.

I'll be going to homecoming because I'll be in the Alumni Band haha, but it's just hard to make this work consistently.

If I lived closer I'd probably go more, but I can certainly see why sales are down. Prices are up and the experience is worse. Pretty obvious to me.
 

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Do you know the difference in season tickets sold this year vs. other years?

Google didn't show me anything immediate or I'm just looking in the wrong places.
I haven't found anything I'd consider "credible", but Williams and Blum have more than alluded to it on their pods, and enough people who I generally put stock in have said things between 5k and 8k fewer than last year. Years without an Iowa home game usually take a bit of a dip, but this was more than usual/anticipated and I've been pretty vocal about believing it has far more to do with an unexciting home slate than anything else. Other factors obviously play a role, but I contend the schedule is the largest one by a landslide.
 

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You guys know what the attendance to the 2017 TCU game was? 56,259.

That was our first game as a ranked team in Jack Trice in over a decade. Playing a Top 5 team. If you go back and watch the game, every shot of the crowd looks full. The camera is shaking on TCU offensive plays in the 4th quarter. Everyone who attended said it was one of the loudest environments they've ever been in.

Right now we've sold over 61,000 tickets for Saturday. If it doesn't technically sell out, who gives a ****? You will in no way be able to tell the difference between what's there and a technical sell out. The goal is to fill the stadium and provide a raucous atmosphere. That's already guaranteed.
 

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I haven't found anything I'd consider "credible", but Williams and Blum have more than alluded to it on their pods, and enough people who I generally put stock in have said things between 5k and 8k fewer than last year. Years without an Iowa home game usually take a bit of a dip, but this was more than usual/anticipated and I've been pretty vocal about believing it has far more to do with an unexciting home slate than anything else. Other factors obviously play a role, but I contend the schedule is the largest one by a landslide.
I think this schedule is good enough to sell the normal amount in a looser economic climate. I think a lot of people looked at the cost, and compared it to the now higher costs of every day life and thought "I can just buy single game tickets for the games its convenient to make cheaper" and went that route.
 
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There’s a mountain of data (some examples in this thread already) that disproves this theory. Sorry but it didn’t have an impact outside of the ten people who actually didn’t get tickets due to that. And that’s NOT an impact. The number of people on the forums (small amount mind you) hung up on the result of a pointless game in Memphis is bizarre.
Please share your data and research. TIA.
 

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I thought they said only 500 remaining during their pod? They even mentioned it was a possibility it would be sold out by the time it was posted to Spotify and such.

I know from people manually counting the unsold seats on TicketMaster we've slowly gone from 500ish to 300ish unsold tickets throughout this week.
I thought I heard them say there were 58,000 sold.
 

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The number of people on the forums (small amount mind you) hung up on the result of a pointless game in Memphis is bizarre.
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While I think Williams was spot on, what fans here think we are in the “country club?” I don’t know any. all the fans I interact with are fully aware ISU is a public course athletic program. We don’t like it, but we are well aware.
we are more of the rural public course that doesnt get much foot traffic.
 
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We drive from MN for each game. Say $50 in gas and $50 in food each way. We stay at a relatives house.

But we park for free, we rarely buy food at the stadium, and our tickets are like $60 each. So we're looking at about $300 or so per game plus 7 hours driving.

The atmosphere of being there is worth it, especially for the really hot, cold, or exciting games. Those are the ones people remember.

But for people not willing to drive 7 hours every other weekend for a game, I totally get the preference for TV. There is zero reason for a timeout after a kick, then immediately after the insuing kickoff.
 

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There’s a mountain of data (some examples in this thread already) that disproves this theory. Sorry but it didn’t have an impact outside of the ten people who actually didn’t get tickets due to that. And that’s NOT an impact. The number of people on the forums (small amount mind you) hung up on the result of a pointless game in Memphis is bizarre.
I think the Memphis game left a bad taste in lots of peoples mouth because many were sold at the “experience “ of Memphis and it was pretty miserable. And then told afterward why be upset at what was basically an “exhibition game”. I go to watch my team win. Too much money to throw away to drink 10 hours from home.

But, we will sell this out. People aren’t as enamored with the stadium experience. Watching MLB yesterday. Great atmosphere in Baltimore, but plenty of empty seats.