Why Shouldn't Steve Prohm Lose His Job If We Get Annihilated By Iowa?

[Pat]

I believe the article has since been erased from the Ames Tribune - but it basically accused Pollard of being cheap with the basketball program. He and Hoiberg came out publicly against it but Hines stuck to it and his sources.

Men’s Basketball: Inside the at-times troubled relationship between Hoiberg’s Cyclones and ISU athletic administration

The day after claiming the Diamond Head Classic championship in Hawaii in December 2013, the Iowa State men’s basketball team used luggage as beds and pillows in a hotel ballroom.

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[ForbinsAscynt]

Get out the pitchforks

 

[inCyteful]

Get out the pitchforks

Not sure we need pitchforks, he won't defend

 

[BringBackJohnny]

CSP seems to lose guys at a rate I’ve never seen before. Some like Hali for good reasons the other just because they want to. That seems like either bad recruiting, bad culture, or bad coaching. Those are CSP’s prime areas to be great it seems he’s not cutting the holistic management level necessary to be an effective coach. Sure we can suck for 5 more years and hope he figures it out but I’d rather not.

 

[leeeroy1119]

This year is the first time in forever I fully expect the team to get their asses beat by Iowa. It sucks, but meh they have opportunities to spoil other teams goals. Hawk fans should soak it in because there’s no evidence Fran can maintain anything close to this.

The outcome has no bearing on Steve’s job. Because of the pandemic he’s got 2 years to get the team back into the tournament.

This is the most ******** thing I have read in a long time. Pandemic should not be used as an excuse.

 

[cytown]

Cmon donors - pony up. Let’s get someone in here that can coach.

 

[Macloney]

This is the most ******** thing I have read in a long time. Pandemic should not be used as an excuse.

Get used to hearing it. It is the excuse for everything right now whether it is true or not.

 

[shadow]

Men’s Basketball: Inside the at-times troubled relationship between Hoiberg’s Cyclones and ISU athletic administration

The day after claiming the Diamond Head Classic championship in Hawaii in December 2013, the Iowa State men’s basketball team used luggage as beds and pillows in a hotel ballroom.

www.google.com

Wow. Lots of missteps here, but I could see it. JP is an accountant and I know how accountants can be sometimes.

 

[Bader]

This is the most ******** thing I have read in a long time. Pandemic should not be used as an excuse.

The pandemic has put the AD in such a hole financially that paying Steve to go away, paying a new coach and potentially paying that coach's buyout isn't feasible. If you think it's ******** feel free to pony up, because it's how it is

 

[ZuriCyclone]

We are in the hole 50 - 60 million dollars this year. No billionaire donors for ISU. We have to ride out Prohms terrible era. Plus we have to pay CMC and staff.

What do you prefer more making the CF playoffs or winning in basketball.

 

[Lewey24]

We are in the hole 50 - 60 million dollars this year. No billionaire donors for ISU. We have to ride out Prohms terrible era. Plus we have to pay CMC and staff.

What do you prefer more making the CF playoffs or winning in basketball.

This is the reality of it, we’re going to lose a ton of money paying back our loan from this year, and any excess money should be going straight to Matt Campbell and his staff. Sustaining football success is the goal right now, because that will keep the athletic department in a good spot financially.

 

[ISUCubswin]

Here’s why I think there’s a chance JP makes a move this year despite the financial issue it could bring up...

Everybody in college basketball knows Prohm is a dead man walking. No decent college recruits will come in ‘22 because the man recruiting them will not be their coach.

 

[Legend Hawk]

I've been trying to tell you guys since I started posting here that Prohm was a horrible coach and was destroying what Fred built. At least some of you can finally see it now that Fred's program is completely burnt to the ground.

 

[dexterhawk]

I love what Prohm has done with the program.

 

[Clonehomer]

CSP seems to lose guys at a rate I’ve never seen before. Some like Hali for good reasons the other just because they want to. That seems like either bad recruiting, bad culture, or bad coaching. Those are CSP’s prime areas to be great it seems he’s not cutting the holistic management level necessary to be an effective coach. Sure we can suck for 5 more years and hope he figures it out but I’d rather not.

This is absolutely the issue right now. Looking at the backcourt he recruited for this year, we should have a dominant team. But, for one reason or another, he's lost those guys to the pros or transfers. Maybe he had to take fliers to get guys because we were so senior heavy with little underclassmen when he took over? Either way, if he's around beyond this year, that's the area that needs to improve. He has what appears to be a good group of young players on this roster. He needs to keep them all if we're going to have any chance of success in the next couple years.

 

[Rebel]

This is absolutely the issue right now. Looking at the backcourt he recruited for this year, we should have a dominant team. But, for one reason or another, he's lost those guys to the pros or transfers. Maybe he had to take fliers to get guys because we were so senior heavy with little underclassmen when he took over? Either way, if he's around beyond this year, that's the area that needs to improve. He has what appears to be a good group of young players on this roster. He needs to keep them all if we're going to have any chance of success in the next couple years.

Who is in the group of young players that appear to be good?

I dont even think Walker played until mop up time the other night.

Blackwell looked awful out there.

Dubar played 10 minutes and literally the only stats he posted were 2 turnovers. No FG attempts, rebounds, blocks, steals or anything else.

Foster flashed for about 5-6 minutes.

Everyone else on the roster is either a junior or senior so I would not consider them young.

Edit- forgot Jackson being out when I made the comment about everyone else being a junior or senior.

 

[Clonefan32]

Who is in the group of young players that appear to be good?

I dont even think Walker played until mop up time the other night.

Blackwell looked awful out there.

Dubar played 10 minutes and literally the only stats he posted were 2 turnovers. No FG attempts, rebounds, blocks, steals or anything else.

Foster flashed for about 5-6 minutes.

Everyone else on the roster is either a junior or senior so I would not consider them young.

Bingo. For some reason this year's class has been catagorized as some kind of program-changing class. With the exception of Foster, most of these guys wouldn't be relied on to contribute on a decent team. They are, for the most part, projects. Very well could wind up good players a few years down the road, but don't appear ready to contribute on a high level any time soon.

Keegan Murray was the best freshmen on the floor on Friday, and that is not a good sign.

 

[CyTwins]

Keegan Murray was the best freshmen on the floor on Friday, and that is not a good sign.

Lol what?

 

[iahawks]

Keegan Murray was the best freshmen on the floor on Friday, and that is not a good sign.

Keegan has been really good so far albeit against bad competition. Will see how he fares against Gonzaga and the Big 10. But he has a lot of upside.

 

[iahawks]

Who is in the group of young players that appear to be good?

I dont even think Walker played until mop up time the other night.

Blackwell looked awful out there.

Dubar played 10 minutes and literally the only stats he posted were 2 turnovers. No FG attempts, rebounds, blocks, steals or anything else.

Foster flashed for about 5-6 minutes.

Everyone else on the roster is either a junior or senior so I would not consider them young.

Edit- forgot Jackson being out when I made the comment about everyone else being a junior or senior.

ISU will just reload with transfers like they always do.