Why don't Minnesota and ISU play?

rdubbs

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Was watching the CR Gazette online chat today and saw this interesting post from one of their reporters

Scott Dochterman:
Minny Asst. AD says he wants to schedule ISU every year. It's their closest BCS school. ISU has turned them down because of series with Iowa.

Would ISU fans be interested in a series with Minny?
 

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Was watching the CR Gazette online chat today and saw this interesting post from one of their reporters

Scott Dochterman:
Minny Asst. AD says he wants to schedule ISU every year. It's their closest BCS school. ISU has turned them down because of series with Iowa.

Would ISU fans be interested in a series with Minny?

I would definitely be in favor of it, and dropping a meaningless, and sometimes difficult, non-conference opponent (See UConn, Utah...)
 

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I would like to play Minnesota but because of the series with Iowa playing 2 Big Ten teams every year would be tough when trying to build this team up, but it looks like with teams like UConn, Utah, Navy, and Air Force coming up Minnesota isn't looking too bad.
 

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Not really. What does adding Minnesota to the schedule give us? We already have a tough enough non-conference schedule. They already have their rival in place (Wisconsin).
 

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Was watching the CR Gazette online chat today and saw this interesting post from one of their reporters

Scott Dochterman:
Minny Asst. AD says he wants to schedule ISU every year. It's their closest BCS school. ISU has turned them down because of series with Iowa.

Would ISU fans be interested in a series with Minny?

Put ISU in the Big 10 and make it happen!
 

rdubbs

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Not really. What does adding Minnesota to the schedule give us? We already have a tough enough non-conference schedule. They already have their rival in place (Wisconsin).

1) A BCS opponent to face

2) Very close for both fan bases to travel
 

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I think this could be a great series and turn into a great rivalry.
 

ISU_phoria

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Living in Minneapolis, I'd love a yearly series with the Gophers. But, I also would have a hard time with two Big 10 opponents every year on our non-conference schedule. Right now, we need the Kent State's of the world on our schedule.
 

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In theory, I love it. And I'm not one to run away from a tough schedule. But if we did that, our schedule would look like this every year...

Non-Conference game
Non-Conference game

Big 10 game
Big 10 game

Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game

That's pretty brutal.
 

rdubbs

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In theory, I love it. And I'm not one to run away from a tough schedule. But if we did that, our schedule would look like this every year...

Non-Conference game
Non-Conference game

Big 10 game
Big 10 game

Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game
Big 12 game

That's pretty brutal.

What if Iowa/ISU is moved to the last game of the year? :yes:
 

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Absolutely not. Not very many teams play two BCS schools for nonconference games, the ones that do normally are winning 8-10 games a year.

Who is the only Big 12 Team to schedule two BCS schools for non-conference games? Baylor.
 

ISUFan22

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What if Iowa/ISU is moved to the last game of the year? :yes:

1. Makes no difference, same schedule, different order
2. I support that game moving to the end of the year and always have. That's not the point of this discussion.
 

TarHeelHawk

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1) A BCS opponent to face

2) Very close for both fan bases to travel

Right, but Minnesota probably wouldn't want to make the trip to Ames in the years where they all ready have to go to Iowa, and likewise ISU wouldn't want to go to Minneapolis in the years that they go to Iowa City.
 

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Absolutely not. Not very many teams play two BCS schools for nonconference games, the ones that do normally are winning 8-10 games a year.

Who is the only Big 12 Team to schedule two BCS schools for non-conference games? Baylor.

Iowa does, and has pretty regularly for the last 6-7 years.
 

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It's true...
The game, Trice's death, and aftermath
On October 6, 1923, Trice and his Iowa State College teammates played against the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It was ISU's third game that season; St. Louis refused to play against a black player. On the night of the game, Trice had to stay at a different Minneapolis hotel from his teammates.
During the second play of the game, Trice's collarbone was broken. Trice insisted he was all right and returned to the game. In the third quarter, while attempting to tackle a University of Minnesota ball carrier by throwing a roll block, Trice was trampled by three Minnesota players. Although he claimed to be fine, Trice was removed from the game and sent to a Minneapolis hospital. The doctors declared him fit to travel and he returned by train to Ames with his teammates. On October 8, 1923, Trice died from hemorrhaged lungs and internal bleeding as a result of the injuries sustained during the game.
Trice's funeral was held at the Iowa State College's central campus in Ames on October 16, 1923, with 4,000 students and faculty members in attendance.
As a result of his death, ISU did not renew their contract to play against Minnesota after the 1924 game. They would not play again until 1989.
 

rdubbs

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Right, but Minnesota probably wouldn't want to make the trip to Ames in the years where they all ready have to go to Iowa, and likewise ISU wouldn't want to go to Minneapolis in the years that they go to Iowa City.

So why couldn't they start the series in Ames when Minny comes to Iowa City? That seems like a pretty easy fix.
 

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Right, but Minnesota probably wouldn't want to make the trip to Ames in the years where they all ready have to go to Iowa, and likewise ISU wouldn't want to go to Minneapolis in the years that they go to Iowa City.

Well last year Iowa played Minnesota on the road and ISU at home and this year Minnesota at home and ISU on the road. If that pattern kept up it would be a non-issue for both.
 

dualthreat

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Dont we already play

Iowa
UNI
Nebraska
Missouri
Kansas State @ Arrowhead
NDSU or some other local mid-major program...

Why do we need another rivalry game?
 

TarHeelHawk

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Right, but Minnesota probably wouldn't want to make the trip to Ames in the years where they all ready have to go to Iowa, and likewise ISU wouldn't want to go to Minneapolis in the years that they go to Iowa City.

So why couldn't they start the series in Ames when Minny comes to Iowa City? That seems like a pretty easy fix.

Minnesota all ready had to take a bus to Iowa City this year -as opposed to the charter they're usually on, so I doubt that they would want to make 2 trips to Iowa in one year.
 

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