who would we be recruiting from South East Polk?

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Does this surprise you? Des Moines is in Iowa State's backyard. On the flip side, I'm guessing there are plenty of "smaller schools" in the CR area that don't ever see ISU coaches. Sounds to me like your neighbor feels as though his team isn't good enough to garner attention from Iowa. You do realize collegiate coaching staffs only have so many coaches and they are already spread thin with recruiting the way it is don't you? If he doesn't have any solid prospects coming up the pipeline it would be a complete waste of time for Iowa to send a coach there. There's thousands of schools in Iowa. They aren't going to make it to every single one.

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Actually right around 400. Iowa State and I'm pretty sure Iowa split up the state amongst their staff along with their national recruiting territories. So while Burnham may have Florida and the SE, he also has Central IA. Mangino may have Texas, along with NE IA. *Not saying that's what they have, just an example.
If that coach doesn't have anyone stopping by, they probably haven't had a D1 recruit in a long time. Guarantee once they had someone of that calibur they will be stopping by a ton
 

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Disagree. I coach at a very large school but grew up in a very small one. If you are good enough, coaches will notice you. Doesn't matter where you are. Especially with how popular camps and summer combines are right now for HS kids. There have been plenty of 3A on down kids that have gone on to have successful college careers.

I said "almost all" and I was referring to the Des Moines area. Obviously there are always exceptions. There is plenty of rural towns and schools who keep their best athletes all the time. However, in the Des Moines area it is very common for the bigger schools like Dowling, Ankeny, and Valley to pouch the best athletes from smaller or less competitive schools in the area.
 

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Actually right around 400. Iowa State and I'm pretty sure Iowa split up the state amongst their staff along with their national recruiting territories. So while Burnham may have Florida and the SE, he also has Central IA. Mangino may have Texas, along with NE IA. *Not saying that's what they have, just an example.
If that coach doesn't have anyone stopping by, they probably haven't had a D1 recruit in a long time. Guarantee once they had someone of that calibur they will be stopping by a ton

I had no idea there was only 400 schools in Iowa. Thanks for pointing that out. My guess was way off!

I have no doubt that both Iowa and ISU do their best to recruit everywhere. I agree with you about the fact that coach probably hasn't had a high level recruit in quite some time. It is impossible for the coaching staffs to cover every school so of course they have to pick and choose. I just think it's a bit ridiculous for that coach to hold a grudge against Iowa coaches because they haven't visited. If I were him I would focus more on what is in my player's best interest instead of which coaches have visited more frequently. It should be about the player, not about which coaches have done the most schmoozing to him. If Iowa likes one of his players I have no doubt they will come calling. He shouldn't try to block them because they haven't had their foot in the door.

In today's world great athletes will most certainly get noticed no matter where they are at. I suppose when a young athlete decides to transfer to a bigger school it isn't necessarily as much about exposure anymore as much as it is about getting better by competing against more elite competition. Both Iowa and ISU have contacts throughout the state, the Midwest, and the nation who tip them off about solid unheralded recruits who would be worth taking a look at. Clearly it has paid off very well for Iowa. They have a lot of history recruiting kids from tiny schools.
 
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I said "almost all" and I was referring to the Des Moines area. Obviously there are always exceptions. There is plenty of rural towns and schools who keep their best athletes all the time. However, in the Des Moines area it is very common for the bigger schools like Dowling, Ankeny, and Valley to pouch the best athletes from smaller or less competitive schools in the area.

Less competitive is not uncommon. Dowling and Valley both get a few players a year from City and Suburb schools alike who want to play for winners. Ankeny not very often though as they are comparatively more isolated.
Moving to a bigger school from a smaller school though is pretty uncommon when it comes to getting more exposure to be D1. When Ankeny won title in '12 I think they had a kid from North Polk and one from CMB. Neither of them ended up being D1. Only one I can think that was actually a D1 athlete was now 10 years ago when Patrick Neal left WInterset for Valley.
 

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I said "almost all" and I was referring to the Des Moines area. Obviously there are always exceptions. There is plenty of rural towns and schools who keep their best athletes all the time. However, in the Des Moines area it is very common for the bigger schools like Dowling, Ankeny, and Valley to pouch the best athletes from smaller or less competitive schools in the area.

Shane is at Urbandale today.

Also, Ankeny isn't a big school anymore. In fact, I think there are about 20 4A schools with a 9-11 grade enrollment larger than Dowling, 7 of which are Central Iowa schools.
 

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Looks like Shane was at Waukee too according to his Twitter. I'm on mobile so I can't link it, but he posted a picture of the banner of Jake Knott in hanging outside the new field house.
 

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Less competitive is not uncommon. Dowling and Valley both get a few players a year from City and Suburb schools alike who want to play for winners. Ankeny not very often though as they are comparatively more isolated.
Moving to a bigger school from a smaller school though is pretty uncommon when it comes to getting more exposure to be D1. When Ankeny won title in '12 I think they had a kid from North Polk and one from CMB. Neither of them ended up being D1. Only one I can think that was actually a D1 athlete was now 10 years ago when Patrick Neal left WInterset for Valley.

I can't remember his name but that Ankeny team did have a player that moved from North Polk to Ankeny for his senior year, and he was very good. I was thinking he might walk on at Iowa State because there was some connection like his dad wrestled there or something, but he apparently didn't.
 

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My neighbor is the head football coach at a smaller school in the Des Moines area. He says Burnham stops by once in a while. Said he's never seen an Iowa coach. He says he's not going to be overly helpful if he has a DI prospect and Iowa finally comes visiting.


LOL. I guess that they'll miss out on that Hoover High School D-1 prospect that has never existed in the school's history.

Seems like the coach would be serving the kid best by pointing him to the best situation for him rather than holding a vendetta because an assistant coach from Iowa didn't come in to polish his knob.