Imagine what Hilton would be like after 10 more years of Prohm.
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(Update: Bill Self?) The State.......of Oklahoma State basketball
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If you randomly flip through all the ESPN+ games on a weeknight a majority of the gyms in the country look like this. We are just used to watching Big 12 games.
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Prohm? The last year of Gmac Hilton was lucky to be half full for conference games.
this is the type of arena we like to go into and lose.
5-4 down there in the last 10 years. Largest margin of victory in those five games in 10 points.
1 OT win and 1 OT loss in that span, too.
I disagree; they made a good hire in Brad Underwood. They just lost him after 1 year. I think OSU would be in a different place if they could've kept Underwood.
The bigger problem getting sanctions (which to the life of me I can't understand why OSU didn't fight it since no other school got in trouble but them.) and Boynton wasn't that good of a coach.
Ford was trending in the wrong direction and his career since OSU shows this.
To be fair to Lutz, it is Year #1 and he wasn't left much in the cupboards.
Granted TJ basically rebuilt the team in one offseason... but TJ is a magician.
We'll see how things look in a few years.
Stillwater has a small population of less than 50K, and there is really nothing around it with any size. OKC 65 miles away. With Norman being a burb of OKC and the NBA team that close it just kills them.
I was at OSU for some meetings and they gave us a tour of the basketball arena. It was really strange how you can walk out the doors on one side of the arena and you're on a giant terrace that overlooks the end zone of their football field.
Because they had so little room for expansion of their football stadium, they had to expand that one upward as well. Very little room on the sidelines for the players.
Because they had so little room for expansion of their football stadium, they had to expand that one upward as well. Very little room on the sidelines for the players.
It's been just a perfect storm of crap for OSU basketball.
They expanded the arena just a couple years before they get an NBA franchise an hour down the road. Then the program became mired in mediocrity, or at least went down a notch from where they were when the arena expanded.
They didn't just expand the arena, either. They basically doubled it's capacity.
They expanded the arena just a couple years before they get an NBA franchise an hour down the road. Then the program became mired in mediocrity, or at least went down a notch from where they were when the arena expanded.
They didn't just expand the arena, either. They basically doubled it's capacity.
I decided to Wikipedia GIA and I see that they claim it's nickname is "The Madison Square Garden of the Plains".
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I remember going to the 2014 3OT game in stillwater. They were selling kevin durant Thunder jerseys in the concourse. I thought it was so strange selling a jersey of a conference opponent even if they were pro. I could never imagine Hilton selling jerseys of former Kansas players.
I've been reading up on Lutz. Pretty impressive resume. Will be interesting to follow the progress. It's a school with a pretty decent history in basketball, the question is will they have the support?
They should sell the Thunder back to Seattle. I know it would never happen, but if I was a die hard Cowboy fan I'd be in favor of it
It's funny how other schools, like Baylor for example, have purposely reduced the seating capacity of their new arenas so they won't be so embarrassed with all the empty seats and so they can try to gain a better home court advantage. It's hard to argue with that logic, but it's a sad comment on those schools. Makes you realize the fan support at Iowa State is so much better than most other schools, even those with very successful programs.
With all the empty seats we’ve seen for years I’m surprised they can land any talent. Yes there’s NIL of course, but still, who likes playing in an empty arena?
That's just recognition that scarcity presents larger opportunity for profit. They likely could fill more seats, but the goal is maximizing revenue, and bad camera angles.
They used to fill the expansion when they were good. It is a combo of not being very good and the Thunder as to why it is like that. Plus, fans just do not go to basketball games in the numbers they used to 20 years ago.
Sutton took them to two final 4s. 1995 and 2004. It is so wierd because we have been to 18 NCAA tournaments in the modern era. You would think the law of averages would play out at some point and we would get one.
Sutton took them to two final 4s. 1995 and 2004. It is so wierd because we have been to 18 NCAA tournaments in the modern era. You would think the law of averages would play out at some point and we would get one.
