UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments

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One quick thing I would change. Make the redshirt rules only applicable to true freshman (like in wrestling). Aside from medical redshirts of course.

Redshirts are intended to give a developmental year to incoming freshman, not to be gamed/manipulated by players with buyers remorse.

That or do away with them all together
 
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UNLV who is 3-0, receiving votes in the AP poll, and is 23rd in the coaches poll, quarterback is quitting his team in the middle of the season.





How is UNLV the center of what is wrong with college sport? When did UNLV join the Big 10? Or did they join the SEC?
 

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Why not, indeed? If someone is willing to pay a person for something, and the person is willing to sell it, what's the problem? That's capitalism.

I was saying - Why shouldn't high school athletes be employees of the high school? why should AAU athletes be employees of the AAU team? Why shouldn't pee wee athletes be employees of the Pee Wee league?
 

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Couple of things:

1. It isn't really the same, the schools aren't paying the players (yet). So you can't just go to your bosses (your coach) and demand more money.

2. Some employers will require you to repay your tuition reimbursement if you leave quickly after getting your masters paid for by your job (players get scholarships).
For #2: Some employers do. Some don't. That's not the issue. The issue comes when an entire industry decides to implement this policy. That's called collusion and is a violation of the Sherman antitrust act.
 

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Couple of things:

1. It isn't really the same, the schools aren't paying the players (yet). So you can't just go to your bosses (your coach) and demand more money.

2. Some employers will require you to repay your tuition reimbursement if you leave quickly after getting your masters paid for by your job (players get scholarships).


For #1, that's an arbitrary line to draw. They are being paid to play football at a school. You can try and get cute about who is actually doing the paying, but the reality is the same. To act like the coaches and the NIL folks aren't working together is silly.

For #2, that's fine. I'm sure this kid would gladly reimburse UNLV for a semester of tuition to be able to move on and get a 6 figure pay day elsewhere.
 

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My gawd, if the UNLV QB is asking for $300k to stick around imagine the going rate for a run of the mill power 4 QB... so incredibly stupid. Thankfully Campbell seems to recruit guys with high character who (so far) havent been chasing the quick cash.

We need contracts and protections for both schools and players.

Can't blame him. Why play at UNLV unless you are getting paid? Someone wants to pay more than UNLV? Sign me up.
 

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Maybe I am overthinking this, but if a player can leave a school because they feel that they are overplaying their value, why cant a school stop paying or not pay a player if they are underplaying their value. Jalon Daniels and KU come to mind. I wonder if we will ever get there
 
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I was saying - Why shouldn't high school athletes be employees of the high school? why should AAU athletes be employees of the AAU team? Why shouldn't pee wee athletes be employees of the Pee Wee league?
If you're looking for me to change my answer, you're going to be disappointed. If someone is willing to pay you, and you want to sell, then by all means, go for it.
 

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Maybe I am overthinking this, but if a player can leave a school because they feel that they are overplaying their value, why cant a school stop paying or not pay a player if they are underplaying their value. Jalon Daniels and KU come to mind. I wonder if we will ever get there
That's called "getting fired", and it happens all of the time.
 

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Maybe I am overthinking this, but if a player can leave a school because they feel that they are overplaying their value, why cant a school stop paying or not pay a player if they are underplaying their value. Jalon Daniels and KU come to mind. I wonder if we will ever get there

I'm sure there's nothing preventing it, but good luck with future players being the school that does this.
 
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Please reread and see where you missed the point.
No, I got your point. It's just not apt. Sprite, Coke, Cherry Coke are all owned by the same corporation. That's not the organization in college athletics. The NCAA is a governing body, but doesn't own the entities within it.
Notre Dame is an entirely separately owned business than Ohio State. They may operate in similar spaces, but they're entirely distinct, legally and financially.
 

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Can't blame him. Why play at UNLV unless you are getting paid? Someone wants to pay more than UNLV? Sign me up.
Las Vegas is a pretty neat town. And if you have any type of money like these kids all do now a whole world of, lets call it "intrigue" opens up.
 

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Can't blame him. Why play at UNLV unless you are getting paid? Someone wants to pay more than UNLV? Sign me up.
Good luck to the kid finding another FBS school that will pay him $100K because the vast majority of FBS HCs won't touch him given he quit on a CFP contending team after 4 games and knowing full well he didn't have a written agreement in place for the alleged NIL promise.
 
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Good luck to the kid finding another FBS school that will pay him $100K because the vast majority of FBS HCs won't touch him given he quit on a CFP contending team after 4 games and knowing full well he didn't have a written agreement in place for the alleged NIL promise.
He’s also not very good either.
 
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So far this year I am finding I have no interest in watching anything but Big 12 teams. Not that I watched a lot of B1G or SEC games before, but I find myself just looking at those games now and feeling like I'm not going to support those conferences at all. And it's not hard because I really don't care about their games. I'm sure some people look at Georgia vs. Alabama and can't wait. I don't know anything about those teams or their players and so I simply won't watch and won't feel I missed a thing.

In the past I would watch that game just for the quality of talent. But no more. And I guess that has been the only real change so far to me as far as college football interest.
 
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No, I got your point. It's just not apt. Sprite, Coke, Cherry Coke are all owned by the same corporation. That's not the organization in college athletics. The NCAA is a governing body, but doesn't own the entities within it.
Notre Dame is an entirely separately owned business than Ohio State. They may operate in similar spaces, but they're entirely distinct, legally and financially.
I have to say it sounds like we better start taxing these businesses.
 
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I listened to about 10 seconds of KXNO this morning but the younger guy was ranting about how unfair this all was and Travis made the point that this is how pretty much any industry works. Your competitor offers you an extra $50,000/year, you go to your bosses and say either match it or I leave. That's not at all uncommon.
Travis is wrong. Many industries may work that way, but not professional sports. The Yankees can't just call Twins best players and offer them twice their current salary to immediately pack up their bags and move to New York.
 

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