Tyrese Hunter Entering the Transfer Portal - NIL Speculation

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I thought Gleague salaries were about 35k.

Do Iowa Energy players that didn't play at ISU typically get 500k/year endorsement deals? What a waste of money that would be. This board is 100% basketball fans and I doubt any of us can name any non-ISU player that has played for them.
Sorry for his first two years Tyrese would possibly be considered a 2-way player. In which he can make up to the minimum NBA salary of around $500k. After those two years he would be on min. G league salary.
 

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I get what you are saying but making hundreds of thousands I think they will be fine with the taxes

They could spend 100% of it before paying any taxes if the guidance around them is poor enough.

If some of them had jobs in high school with a W2 I wouldn't even be shocked if they think they can spend it all and still get a tax return back like they did when they worked at McDonalds ore Home Depot or somewhere.
 
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Or the agent pays him a G League salary while shopping to the highest bidder in which the agent makes the difference between what they are paying Tyrese and the NIL deal.

NIL deal = $500k
Tyresse = $50k

Agent = $450k
After taxes that is a nice chunk of change but can go quick if you aren't careful. Hope he is getting good financial advice
 

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Or the agent pays him a G League salary while shopping to the highest bidder in which the agent makes the difference between what they are paying Tyrese and the NIL deal.

NIL deal = $500k
Tyresse = $50k

Agent = $450k

This is what I was thinking. So if I understand this, Tyrese sold his NIL rights to an agent for a flat fee, for that agent to use and market how they wish. Thus, said agent wants him to be in a bigger market to get better marketing deals.
 

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I get what you are saying but making hundreds of thousands I think they will be fine with the taxes

And agents usually help with that too
Yeah because if ther's one thing we've learned over time, athletes making the jump from amateur to pro and being handed money they never even dreamed of seeing: they have no spending/tax issues.
 

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This is what I was thinking. So if I understand this, Tyrese sold his NIL rights to an agent for a flat fee, for that agent to use and market how they wish. Thus, said agent wants him to be in a bigger market to get better marketing deals.
That's what it sounds like
 

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Sorry for his first two years Tyrese would possibly be considered a 2-way player. In which he can make up to the minimum NBA salary of around $500k. After those two years he would be on min. G league salary.

Yeah, if you're talking 2 way contract that is about the same as his rumors.

There's a massive difference. 2 way contract is like if he was the typical 50th pick in the NBA draft. There aren't a ton of them and they are fringe league guys.

If he declared for the draft he MIGHT get picked late second round but far from sure thing at his short height. This is definitely the safer play to just grab cash if 500k number is true and at least 80% of that goes to him rather than agent.

Wigginton is our only current 2 way player I think, but we've had a ton of guys go through that phase, many of which were second round draft picks.
 
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That's what it sounds like

Ok.

I made mentions of this in other threads, but I hope that what Tyrese is doing is the right path to the ultimate goal of getting in to the NBA. Making money now is nice, but hopefully not at the expense of developing in to an NBA player.

But it sounds like this is a bad deal for Tyrese.
 

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Not sure why Tyrese didn’t just go the professional route this year and play abroad if getting paid was the only priority. I doubt he gets to the league but maybe i’m all wet.
 

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How does it work that they can have an NIL agent but not an NBA draft agent?

Or is it fine to have an NBA draft agent now too?

I honestly never saw why they couldn't hire an agent who only gets paid if/when they get an NBA contract. No different than the common injury insurance policies they only pay if/when they get a big pro pay day.
 

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But there’s something going on behind the scenes that made him want to leave amirite?

This just gets more and more gross by the day (not just TH but the entire pay for play situation).
I agree that this seems like just another way for people on the edges of college sports (i.e. agents) to take advantage of talented young adults.

One semantic note I want to make though is that NIL is not the same thing as pay-for-play. Pay-for-play means that the schools are directly paying their athletes. This allows schools to set up contracts with the players, and will make it so that competitive limiters can be put in place such as salary caps or "luxury taxes". I firmly believe we will see some sort of pay-for-play system adopted in the next decade.
 

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Ok.

I made mentions of this in other threads, but I hope that what Tyrese is doing is the right path to the ultimate goal of getting in to the NBA. Making money now is nice, but hopefully not at the expense of developing in to an NBA player.

But it sounds like this is a bad deal for Tyrese.

If a player was super focused like say MJ or Tiger Woods, they could invest some of the money in medical and physical training in offseason to supercharge their fitness level and avoid injuries.

I mean I'm guessing less than 1% would do that, but $ can buy health these days and buy performance in ways that are not performance enhancing drugs. Things like cold therapy, dietary experts, personal trainers...you could really get a competitive edge with tons of cash if all you cared about was making yourself into the perfect athlete.
 
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If that's true the 500k-850k rumors aren't remotely true.

He'd get 35k a year in the g league. Which is what most of the BEST college players are actually worth without taxpayer/alumni brands attached to their names. 10 players a year (tops) in basketball might be worth more than that without the school brand we all have helped pay for already. A player like JorBo couldn't cut it in GLeague as an 18 or 19 year old and wouldn't even be worth 3k without taxpayer/alumni branding.

Honestly, an ISU collective could easily pay stars a G league salary and the blue blood/big donor programs could probably pay them 10-20x G league salary.

Does the agent somehow pay him the small 35k/year and make up some bs that it's an endorsement...then an actual big money booster pays him the other 500k again pretending that is an endorsement/likeness deal? Then the agent gets 53K cut of the entire thing?

That might have been the g-league pay the first year it existed for the lowest tier guys. I’m sure it’s more now and they may have used average G League salary to formulate the deal. Lots of questions.