I think most people can see there is talent but it seems like Campbell's trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. You can't continue running the ball into a stacked box and think you're going to gain an advantage.
Tuesday Story: Iowa State won’t “panic” in quest to solve offensive woes entering Big 12 opener
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Are the athletes that much better on defense or is it the coaching on defense that much better? Seems to me the offensive line is to heavy should be no heavier than 300 lbs. lack quickness and where is the violence Coach Clanton talks about? Simmons seemed better as a freshman! Just don’t understand why they don’t block until the whistle blows! They stop and turn around to see what happen. Don’t get it!
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It's a variety of things that boils down to poor play calling and then poor execution which diminishes confidence and turns into a **** show. IMO, our staff is handcuffing the line no different than their handcuffing Rocco. If they're stacking the box and wanting us to throw it, throw it. Make the defense spread out and get them on their heels, then, when the defense thinks you're going to throw it, run it down their throat. Right now our line is playing not to mess up but our play calling is so predictable. If the defense essentially knows what the play is going to be, it's so hard for anyone on the offense to succeed.
I was a DB in high school but also played WR. When we'd practice, I obviously knew our offensive playbook and like ISU's offense, we were incredibly predictable. It was so damn easy playing against our offense in practice because I essentially knew every play. Now, obviously ISU's opposing team isn't going to have as much direct knowledge but if you're predictable and the DC has their guys keyed up, it's so hard to move the ball. It's like playing a game of chess when the other guy has a pretty good indication of what you're going to do. It's also what makes our defense so good because Heacock is a mastermind of film and tendencies and teaches his guys the same.
I’ve said this in another thread. The violence happens 3 yards in the backfield when the defense hits the runningback.
I’m just not seeing all this talent everyone keeps talking about on this team.
Some of these players know how bad these route trees and concepts are.
A lot of details go in to much of that being successful
We’re bad at details for most of 7 seasons under CMC
Rocco, Brahmer, Higgins, and Norton are talented. Noel is talented but is so messed up between the ears. Then you have Sama who I think could be the most talented of the bunch but young RBs take time to mold.
That list is mostly underclassmen.
Yes. There's more blame on the players being young, and the players not executing vs. any inward blame on the coaches or him, in particular.
He says he's not deflecting but then deflects.
On the offensive side of the ball, it's almost completely the freshmen and sophomores. But overall, offensive talent is way, way down and it's got to be the worst in the conference.
CMC hasnt given anyone an opportunity to see it. He is handcuffing everyone. They have a top 5 defense, that will keep them in enough games that you have to score maybe 17-20 points to catch a W. The issue is the complete ignorance from CMC to make any changes. The opposing defenses literally only have to stack the box, and defend the first 3 yards basically in between the hashes. CW mentioned it on the last 3-4 podcasts, we arent even making teams defend the whole field. Something has to change, otherwise campbell is going to get more BS than just a drunk fan telling him hes on the hot seat. I cant remember the last time i heard resounding boos at Trice, but holy **** we are getting dangerously close
What are you comparing this talent to? Lazard, Butler, Monty, Breece, Kolar, X, BP…that’s ******* talent. None of the players you mentioned are even in the same stratosphere as those players even on Day 1.
4th quarter of the Iowa game when we were milking clock while down 2 scores
A lot of those guys you just mentioned didn’t play much day 1. And you’re also comparing them to some of the best players in our history of our football program. There are levels to talent. And I’m not gonna sit here and be pissed that our freshman and redshirt freshman aren’t as good as current nfl starters were.
We’re getting 3 ypc on Saturday HOMER TAKE let’s go boys the cowboys suck and we may feel like we suck now but we don’t we’re gonna win
It's not an all or nothing principle. You are going fully in the other direction, implying that if a passing offense requires more speed, skill, good blocking, why try it. A combination of run, pass, screens, misdirection, RPO, tempo, any number of things already discussed, is what is needed, not just one or the other.
We need the other team guessing what we will do rather than knowing. Other teams have us figured out. They know our tendencies and play accordingly. We have done nothing consistently or significantly enough, to change that.
No need to swear at me. No need to call many of our players garbage either. I don't like that, and it does not help matters.
I have made the point, as have many others previously, regarding what play calling and schematic changes could be made, and should be made. A couple of people have just now put a few in Reader's Digest version for you.
I don't feel like I have to relist them for you. Maybe if you ask nicer next time. Others are better at it than me anyway.
Do people not understand the difference between "panicked reaction" and "thoughtful change?" Do you really want the coaching staff to be panicking? How does panic usually work out for people? There's a difference between panic and urgency. I expect urgency, but I'd be disappointed if the coaches were panicked.
ETA: I'm also grown up enough to admit that in the heat of watching the game as a fan, I probably won't be able to identify most of the differences they would implement in a week's time. They could make major changes to how plays are blocked, packaged, etc and I'd wager almost no one here will be able to pick up on those changes in real time. Hell, NFL coaches collect and review film/photos during the game to see what's happening. But Joe Forum thinks he can watch 22 people simultaneously and understand everything that's happening.
ETA: I'm also grown up enough to admit that in the heat of watching the game as a fan, I probably won't be able to identify most of the differences they would implement in a week's time. They could make major changes to how plays are blocked, packaged, etc and I'd wager almost no one here will be able to pick up on those changes in real time. Hell, NFL coaches collect and review film/photos during the game to see what's happening. But Joe Forum thinks he can watch 22 people simultaneously and understand everything that's happening.
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*Whispers* Brahmer will end up being the best TE we’ve ever had at ISU
