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Public schools have a distinct disadvantage to private schools. Private schools can recruit players for their HS teams. Put all the private schools in one class. It is not a fair system with private schools having an advantage.
 

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I’m not quite sure it works that way, from their page



If they have academic excellence, they may want to proof read that first paragraph.
 

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Public schools have a distinct disadvantage to private schools. Private schools can recruit players for their HS teams. Put all the private schools in one class. It is not a fair system with private schools having an advantage.
I believe Illinois and Texas have been this way for 50 years???
 

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Iowa has had open enrollment for a long time now too and I see kids transferring schools a lot for sports. Wrestling usually has the most movement.
I agree with that statement. I was referencing parochial state championship vs. Public school championship.
 
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I agree with that statement. I was referencing parochial state championship vs. Public school championship.
I think some will sort itself out because I get a feeling that we are going to see another round of consolidations coming up. What is being said in DM leads to believe it will be like the late 80s and a mass push will happen.

Honestly, 30 per class and under is tough to provide anymore than just bare bone basics.
 
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I think some will sort itself out because I get a feeling that we are going to see another round of consolidations coming up. What is being said in DM leads to believe it will be like the late 80s and a mass push will happen.

Honestly, 30 per class and under is tough to provide anymore than just bare bone basics.

Private schools will get state funding now and they will still charge private money as well. Poor public students won’t have the money to pay. Private schools will have unlimited resources.
 

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It is a give away to wealthy private schools. They get the public money. Require additional tuition as well and poor students don’t have the money to attend.

Meanwhile those wealthy private schools do not have to take all the students that apply. They educate no students with learning or physical disabilities. And the public schools are forced to educate those students with even less money. Race to the bottom for education in Iowa.
 
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No. They don't have teams. This program is not fielding teams.

Okay.

I’m not particularly happy with how the voucher program has been implemented but schools like this are the silver lining IMO. I’d love to see a fine arts school and an engineering school pop up too.
 

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Okay.

I’m not particularly happy with how the voucher program has been implemented but schools like this are the silver lining IMO. I’d love to see a fine arts school and an engineering school pop up too.
They can. They just need someone to fire things up to get them started; maybe that can be you. I don’t care so it won’t be me.

The sports ones start up because the people that feel passionate about that stuff are willing to put their money there. Engineers aren’t known to be the best donors, the fine arts people I know usually want to donate their talents (will perform or create an art piece) but generally aren’t big money donors. This is not a good recipe for those academies to pop up.
 

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It is a give away to wealthy private schools. They get the public money. Require additional tuition as well and poor students don’t have the money to attend.

Meanwhile those wealthy private schools do not have to take all the students that apply. They educate no students with learning or physical disabilities. And the public schools are forced to educate those students with even less money. Race to the bottom for education in Iowa.
That's just not Iowa.....
 

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Okay.

I’m not particularly happy with how the voucher program has been implemented but schools like this are the silver lining IMO. I’d love to see a fine arts school and an engineering school pop up too.
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It is a give away to wealthy private schools. They get the public money. Require additional tuition as well and poor students don’t have the money to attend.

Meanwhile those wealthy private schools do not have to take all the students that apply. They educate no students with learning or physical disabilities. And the public schools are forced to educate those students with even less money. Race to the bottom for education in Iowa.
I just don't think a lack of funding is the issue for most public schools.
 

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I just don't think a lack of funding is the issue for most public schools.

Iowa schools in the 80’s, 90’s, early 00’s = well funded and top 10 in the country.

Iowa schools in the late 00’s, 10’s, 20’s = not well funded and falling down towards the 30’s in rankings.

Thats just a coincidence I’m sure, it’s happening to every state right?
 

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Iowa schools in the 80’s, 90’s, early 00’s = well funded and top 10 in the country.

Iowa schools in the late 00’s, 10’s, 20’s = not well funded and falling down towards the 30’s in rankings.

Thats just a coincidence I’m sure, it’s happening to every state right?
Maybe some states aren't so stupid that they actually understand the super-power of private schools is deciding who goes to their school. The fact that there are people in our state that are so stupid that they think you could swap Dowling and Hoover's student bodies, and that Dowling would still magically be a high performing school is a pretty damning statement about our education system on its own.

I'm sure there are some terrific teachers and administrators at private schools. But the idea that those schools' performance is some magical thing they are responsible for is about the dumbest thing in education.
 

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Maybe some states aren't so stupid that they actually understand the super-power of private schools is deciding who goes to their school. The fact that there are people in our state that are so stupid that they think you could swap Dowling and Hoover's student bodies, and that Dowling would still magically be a high performing school is a pretty damning statement about our education system on its own.

I'm sure there are some terrific teachers and administrators at private schools. But the idea that those schools' performance is some magical thing they are responsible for is about the dumbest thing in education.
The rankings of HSs has always been on the public end. It’s no secret that private schools attract the kids from wealthier families generally. Those students generally have a strong support system and are involved in more extra curricular activities. Those conditions generally foster stronger performing students.

So as Iowa shrinks so do the enrollments at public schools but privates have held numbers better for the most part it seems. This creates a more students not from the backgrounds that I described being in the public schools. It is kind of a spiral type thing.

If people want to attack me as some private school zealot, my oldest two graduated from public and my youngest is in public schools.
 

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Iowa schools in the 80’s, 90’s, early 00’s = well funded and top 10 in the country.

Iowa schools in the late 00’s, 10’s, 20’s = not well funded and falling down towards the 30’s in rankings.

Thats just a coincidence I’m sure, it’s happening to every state right?
What's your definition of well funded, vs. not well funded?

Top 10 in the country in what? Now we're in the 30's in what rankings?

DMPS for example, has a budget of around $19k per student. What would that have to be for them to provide a significantly better education?
 
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