You are comparing hiring Fred Hoiberg as our basketball coach to hiring Paul Rhoads as our basketball coach? WOW! I really don't know what to say about that comparison. Fred Hoiberg played ten seasons in the NBA I think he knows enough about the game of basketball to be a head coach. I guess I really didn't expect the venom that has been spewed at the thought of Fred returning to Ames. How quickly people forget how much Fred did for ISU.
Time to bring Freddy back to Ames
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I'm trying to figure what;s worse. Hiring a guy who's never coached (Fred) or hiring a coach who just got fired (Dino). Obviously hiring a guy who has never coached isn't good and I don't want the 2nd coming of Wayne Morgan being the coach, either.
So you do understand the concept of apples to oranges? Hmm...
NBA scout....College MBB coach
Apple...Orange
Liking someone is not justification to be the MBB coach at ISU. Not wanting someone to be the basketball coach at ISU does not me you are not a fan of that person.
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Is it really too late? Two pretty prominent programs in Oregon and Wake Forest are still looking for coaches.
Neither one has COACHED basketball. Sure, Hoiberg had a good playing career, and we can respect him for that, but he has done nothing to make us respect him as a coach yet. You dont make that kind of gamble when you're a BCS level program and paying a million a year.
Hell, while he obviously is probably behind FH in bball knowledge, PR has experience recruiting and managing players, acquiring and managing staff...
Doesnt mean i want either, its just ridiculous to think Hoiberg has any shot at being a BCS head coach with no coaching experience.
Fair enough. I agree. I guess I just don't have the hesitation that most seem to have about hiring Hoiberg because he doesn't have experience. If I thought we could get a really quality replacement right now I would hire him over Fred, I just don't think that will happen with the state our program is in right now and the little money we have to pay a head coach.
Well, if the assumption is that there are no candidates of higher quality than The Mayor feasible, then I think most would be open to the idea. However, I would argue that the lack of supporting material (or even any material) of Fred as a coach suggests the list of higher quality coaches that are also feasible is practically endless.
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any potential men's bball coaching search would have to produce a hire much like the hiring of Paul Rhoads. I am suggesting that the candidate who is the best fit for Iowa State and would hopefully have success here would likely not be a mainstream name. I believe many people were surprised by the Paul Rhoads hire when it happened, and have grown more fond of him as a coach and person in the past year. It would be yet another search where Pollard earns his salary.
Question? How much do people think it would cost to get Brian Gregory from Dayton as our next head coach and would he be interested? Personally, I don't think we could afford him and not sure he would be interested. If we could get someone like him I will completely get off my Hoiberg bandwagon.
There are lots of people who are huge Isiah Thomas as a player fans. How many Isiah Thomas as a coach fans are out there? Success on the court != success as a coach.
Nobody is bad mouthing Hoiberg or ignoring the success he had here as a player.
What makes you think Freddy would be a good coach. Sometimes it is best for one of the greatest BB players in school history to be just that. No need to tarnish his image with a bad coaching stint.
Except that Dew was a college assistant for his father for 9 years, as well as a head coach at Valpo for 1 year.
I agree with this post 100%. IF we need a HC, Freddie can recruits, his ties to the NBA would be huge. He certainly can coach, and knows Iowa State. Another Rhoads hire in my opinion. But premature at this point.
How do we know Freddy can coach?
CPR had been a good DC at two successful BCS programs, and an assistant since his playing days were over.
Is Rhoads hire solely defined by him being from Central Iowa and having spent time representing ISU? It is predictable for the media and fans to romanticize that aspect, but that is not the primary reason he has been successful.
You think Rhoads got this job by being the most qualified candidate, and not for his roots or his love for Iowa State? I think he had great characteristics as a DC, but a major part of his hire was his desire to be here as a coach.
Freddy has been successful at EVERY level of basketball. He has been a coach on the court for his teams, has led offenses and certainly knows the x's and o's of basketball. He has show the ability to judge talent, and from everything I've heard can really relate to players of all types and talents. There is no sure thing with anything in life, but for my money, Freddie would give us a good shot, IF he was interested in the job. And that would not be a sure thing.
I think we should just forfit next year. I can't believe we won't even have a coaching staff. Thats when you know things are bad. What quality coach is going to come on McDermotts staff now? only a one year gig. Nick Nurse to ISU??? Ahhh no.
