Thomas should not have been starting over Morris
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What are you guys going to do when he has a good game and starts playing well? You all will feel really stupid. There is absolutely no need to start the same exact thread every game. He shoots the ball like 4 times a game and never turns it over. It is only a matter of time until his shots start falling. Benching a freshman, what good does that do? Naz still hasn't proven he should start. He's not scoring on the road.
Naz scored 9 yday. MT did not score. How many teams have a starting SG that does not score. I love Matt, and think he will come along, but many saying he should start on just blind loyalty.
I anticipate Thomas will have a break out game at some point. But up till now, he hasn't done much of anything.
He has also only scored in double digits twice in the last 8 games. If Naz started people would be saying somebody else should be starting.
Morris played 31 minutes yesterday. If Thomas played those 31 minutes and had the same exact stat line everybody wouldn't be happy. Some are letting the high expectations placed on him affect their opinion towards him. If Thomas was an unranked 3 start people would be happy with how he has played.
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So because Naz does not score double digits he should not start?
But its okay that Matt scores zero?
Long hasn't been good to the point where you make changes to the lineup. He's been okay here and there but not good enough to start. Thomas hasn't been good either but if Long was starting people would complain too because he's had a lot of games where he didn't make a big impact.
Well of course you will. Since every player can do no wrong on this bored....a player FINALLY going off is not proof of some great knowledge you have....it's just inevitable if you keep trotting a player out there.
having said that I don't believe other than FT% against Naz that Thomas is better in one category than Morris or Naz. And that doesn't even address that Thomas is fairly limited defensively.
I like the kid, but he reminds me of jake Sullivan. But what made Sullivan great was even though he was slower, he was crafty and could still get into the lane, could get to the line....Thomas is basically a 6 foot cigar store Indian shooting threes.
Rebounding. The thing about Thomas is catching and shooting threes isn't what he is best at. He's best at shooting off the dribble and hanging floaters in the lane. People see that he's white and assume he only shoots threes. Every time I watched him play in HS he actually preferred taking jumpers off the dribble. He hasn't been able to do that because Kane has the ball in his hands. Thomas creating his own offense isn't in our offense. And your last comparison makes absolutely zero sense to me.
This isn't high school. He's not doing those things currently......you can pull up on anybody in high school if you have a jumper. I hope you are kidding that you think most of his shots are coming off penetration he's creating.......he's a spot shooter right now.
my comparison is that both were not terribly quick, not terribly fast with the ball, and both are "supposedly" very accurate shooters. The difference is that sully would get himself to the line. Thomas has only attempted 18 free throws in 15 games. Thus...spot shooter. That help?
Sunshine and rainbows coalition continues to ignore this post. None of you have a comment about the fact that Thomas has an average plus/minus rating in the negative, while Monte is at +17 and Naz is at +15? Keep ignoring the facts folks. Thomas should be coming off the bench and Naz should be starting.
There are many examples of teams with spark plug bench players who end up playing significant minutes, sometimes even more than starters. Think of Bobby Jackson and Nate Robinson or even CFH's role his last few years w/ Minnesota. I see Naz fitting in as best he can to the role Tyus left open when he graduated and Monte filling in at point guard and continuing to get more minutes as throughout the year.
Matt will be the bigger 2-guard who helps us spread the floor but his minutes will decline if he remains tentative on his shot. Freddy will let him shoot as long as he keeps his % up in the mid-to-high 30s but as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, he can't be passing up good, open looks.
Matt will be the bigger 2-guard who helps us spread the floor but his minutes will decline if he remains tentative on his shot. Freddy will let him shoot as long as he keeps his % up in the mid-to-high 30s but as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, he can't be passing up good, open looks.
Where did I say his most of his shots are coming off penetration he's creating? I said that's what he did extremely well in HS and he hasn't done that this year because his role is to stand in the corner and let Kane/Niang/Ejim and Hogue take the shots. If he's not getting shots it's because the other guys are taking over the game and I don't see how that is a negative towards Thomas. And why does every white player in Iowa State history have to be compared to each other? It is possible they are completely different players.
Thomas is a better ball handler and a better passer than Naz. I think Morris and Thomas are actually the best passers on this team.
I agree that Thomas' play has been underwhelming, but to act like he's not talented is silly.
That's a good stat. Morris got pushed around quite a bit against OU but he was solid I thought. And he's able to push the ball, create for himself and others.
Well in that case Long and Morris should be starting over Ejim too since he's all the way done in the 20's, correct? BENCH EJIM!!
Well it's a convenient excuse to say "he's deferring"....but if he could do it...he would be. One thing this team does is milk the hot hands whoever it is (see number of players of the week we have had). He can't do it right now...period.
im not comparing them because they are white...but comparing him to dedric willoughby, etc seemed ridiculous....he is what he is...a highly effective 3 point shooter....which...is what Sullivan was.
Dingus: wà snt insinuating he's not talented. I'm sure he is. But based off his body of work so far....we have players simply who are more effective on the floor right now.
