This guy at CR Gazette is a piece of work..

[Flag Guy]

Something else that's pretty funny is that Hawk fans hate Hlas too. He's a pretty crap journalist all around.

I was gonna say... put the comments about the Hawk slant away - thats just a terribly written piece all together. The Hawk slant just caps off what was always a terrible article.

As for the Gazette/CR news... I HATE listening to the news/reading the paper when I'm back in CR for break. I can't stand all the Hawk slant/Anti ISU reporting. Everytime I go home I feel like I'm sufficating... Oh well now that I've re-painted my car Red and Gold, going home ought to atleast give me a few kicks this time around :biggrin:

 

[SplitIdentity]

Yep, especially since last year there were about 1/2 ISU fans at that game in Carver and their attendance this year is worse than last.

No, no there weren't. I was there, in the student section. There were a fair number of ISU fans, but Carver was almost sold out, with only a few hundred open single seats. Most of them were Iowa fans - maybe 2,000 ISU fans last season.

That being said, last year was also one of the very rare times that ISU was ahead of Iowa in average attendance, and it was very close. Iowa usually averages 13,000+ fans per game (and much like ISU, those 13,000 were only really there for good teams, or when the team was rolling). So these CHA jokes, while applicable this season, aren't really based on much.

Also, FWIW, Iowa has a better winning % in Carver over the last 5 years than ISU does.

Anyways, back on topic...

I don't think any "journalist" (in quotes because finding a real sports journalist - or real journalist - in the state of Iowa is rare these days), slant ISU or slant Iowa, has nothing really to brag about. This game was predicted to be bad, and it was. Home court played a major role, as Iowa probably would have won by the same margin in CHA (assuming a crowd would have actually showed up).

The teams are bad this year. Equally bad. ISU got demolished by UNI and Drake, and Iowa beat UNI, lost to ISU, and will probably also get demolished by Drake. The thing is though, Mac and Lick are both pulling in good recruiting classes, and both are very good coaches. This rivalry will be fantastic in a few years, and I'm excited for the future of both programs.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Apples and Oranges.


Ames paper = iowa city paper
CR Gazette = DM Rag

CR Gazette ≠ Ames Tribune

Not quite...

DM Rag = Omaha WH (theoretically, as DM Rag is the "state" paper, but it's more like LTE...)

CR Gazette = QC Times = Sioux City paper (as basically only those that live in CR are going to get Gazette, like those that live in QC will get the Times. But the Rag is available across the state)

Ames paper = Iowa City paper

 

[Cydkar]

Paranoia!

 

[Oldgeezer]

The CR Gazette & KCRG Ch9 are owned by the same outfit. Ch 9 might be even more biased. They would love to get the broadcast rights to Hawk games, hence the pandering. You think Hlass is bad, you should try John Campbell. On the other hand, they are only 30 miles from Iowa City, and their audience is no doubt 80% Hawkeye. Same could be said for Ch 2 & 7, but they at least acknowledge the Cyclones existence.

 

[SlyCy]

Paranoia!

Funny that was the response I got when I wrote the Gazette complaining about their coverage of ISU sport in a nagative light. Do you work for the Gazette?

The Gazette covers two things well. First and formost the success of the Hawkeyes. Second anything negative about the Cyclones.

The funny thing about Hlas is that he hasn't had many things to write about with the success of the Hawkeyes so I guess when times are tough you turn to bashing the Cyclones. Great journalism.

 

[CyPlainsDrifter]

No, no there weren't. I was there, in the student section. There were a fair number of ISU fans, but Carver was almost sold out, with only a few hundred open single seats. Most of them were Iowa fans - maybe 2,000 ISU fans last season.

That being said, last year was also one of the very rare times that ISU was ahead of Iowa in average attendance, and it was very close. Iowa usually averages 13,000+ fans per game (and much like ISU, those 13,000 were only really there for good teams, or when the team was rolling). So these CHA jokes, while applicable this season, aren't really based on much.

Also, FWIW, Iowa has a better winning % in Carver over the last 5 years than ISU does.

Anyways, back on topic...

I don't think any "journalist" (in quotes because finding a real sports journalist - or real journalist - in the state of Iowa is rare these days), slant ISU or slant Iowa, has nothing really to brag about. This game was predicted to be bad, and it was. Home court played a major role, as Iowa probably would have won by the same margin in CHA (assuming a crowd would have actually showed up).

The teams are bad this year. Equally bad. ISU got demolished by UNI and Drake, and Iowa beat UNI, lost to ISU, and will probably also get demolished by Drake. The thing is though, Mac and Lick are both pulling in good recruiting classes, and both are very good coaches. This rivalry will be fantastic in a few years, and I'm excited for the future of both programs.

Absolute horse crap.... there were WAY more than a couple thousand ISU fans there last year.... try 5K minimum (I was there too). Maybe not the 1/2 I stated above(that was hyperbole, duh). Also, iowa has fine paid attendance I will give you that, but they have had an empty seat problem for years and last year was horrid. This year is worse.... way to support you new coach.

 

[DaddyMac]

And if iowa had won - it would have been an "epic game between two embattled teams, and the undermanned iowa hawkeyes, without their star player managed to ride pure emotion over and ISU team with the services of their best player. And at the end of the day, then angles sang, the heavenly trumpets blared, and a single ray of light shown brightly upon the iowa team bus all the way back to the promised land...."

Ahhhh....

 

[keepngoal]

SH: the 'paid' attendance has been a little behind JHHC (stats speak for themselves)... but the actual attendance of CHA is and HAS been behind JHHC for a while and it isn't even close....

-keep.

 

[TheHelgo]

not sure what the problem here is. He may as well cater to the audience that is most responsible for paying his check. Besides, who really cares what he says.

 

[AirWalke]

SouthernHawk, I was at the game last year as well, sitting a section over from the students. While they were impressive, CHA as a whole just never struck me as a very loud place to play. I think the sound escapes into the concourses above.

 

[SplitIdentity]

Absolute horse crap.... there were WAY more than a couple thousand ISU fans there last year.... try 5K minimum (I was there too). Maybe not the 1/2 I stated above(that was hyperbole, duh). Also, iowa has fine paid attendance I will give you that, but they have had an empty seat problem for years and last year was horrid. This year is worse.... way to support you new coach.

LOL, sorry, 2,500 at most. The ISU contingent wasn't even really all that loud last year during the game...

SouthernHawk, I was at the game last year as well, sitting a section over from the students. While they were impressive, CHA as a whole just never struck me as a very loud place to play. I think the sound escapes into the concourses above.

While the noise level increases as you get closer to the floor, I agree. It is really difficult to get CHA loud. It does get pretty loud, and can be an intimidating place to play, but that happens rarely, and only when the fans are VERY fired up.

 

[wonkadog]

The teams are bad this year. Equally bad.

Sorry, can't let this slip by. I know ISU is below average this year but Iowa is flat out awful. There's a reason that going into this game I had the weird feeling of confidence. It came from knowing how bad Iowa is. They shoot the lights out from behind the arc at UNI and come away with a win. Congrats. We were leading/tied with UNI most of the game in Ames and came out on the wrong end of things at the end. The Drake game was just one of "those" games where nothing goes right for one team and everything goes right for the other. On Saturday, an unbiased observer would say that Iowa was lucky to be within 20 points, much less right around 10. Did you see how many short range shots that ISU missed??

 

[ss]

i am not a mike hlas fan, he is way slanted towards the hawks. hes a hawk homer.
some years back, my buddy (from michigan) and i were at a bar, hlas was there my buddy and he had some words over michigan and iowa. he popped hlas in the nose. it was pretty funny.

 

[BryceC]

No, no there weren't. I was there, in the student section. There were a fair number of ISU fans, but Carver was almost sold out, with only a few hundred open single seats.

According to the box score there was about 1000 empty seats.

LOL, sorry, 2,500 at most. The ISU contingent wasn't even really all that loud last year during the game...

Of course they weren't that loud, they were getting killed. It's not like the few hunderd Iowa fans at the game on Saturday were going bananas either.

 

[wonkadog]

To go off your post Bryce, that was one of the most pathetic showings for Iowa fans I can ever remember at Hilton in the last 10 years (not that I can blame them). I mean there's always a lot more ISU fans down at Carver when we go there than when Iowa plays up here but still...

 

[DBQ Clone]

Hlas is a good guy. He's someone who's interested in the game, regardless of who's playing.

He's mea culpa'ed several times after calling against ISU. Keep in mind that the Gazette is square in the middle of Hawk country.

I'd put Hlas up against any Register sports guy any day. He's cool and he calls it like he sees it. ISU did NOT play their best against Iowa. GMac said as much in the post-game.

Take this as you will. I do work for the same company as he does, but I know his ethic. Also, Hlas' column is opinion with reporting mixed in, so there's that too.

I think his column is spot on. Did you see stellar BBall during that game? Not me.

 

[no2cyclones]

Hlas is a good guy. He's someone who's interested in the game, regardless of who's playing.

He's mea culpa'ed several times after calling against ISU. Keep in mind that the Gazette is square in the middle of Hawk country.

I'd put Hlas up against any Register sports guy any day. He's cool and he calls it like he sees it. ISU did NOT play their best against Iowa. GMac said as much in the post-game.

Take this as you will. I do work for the same company as he does, but I know his ethic. Also, Hlas' column is opinion with reporting mixed in, so there's that too.

I think his column is spot on. Did you see stellar BBall during that game? Not me.

I agree--Hlas isn't too bad at all. If you're looking for bad journalism in the same company, you need to look at Jeff Johnson. And Bob Brooks needs to figure out that he's a little over-ripe for retirement.

 

[SlyCy]

Right on cue, Hlas goes out of his way to write another nagative story about the Cyclones. This time a former Cyclone...like I said Hawk success first, Cyclone demise second.

From the 12/11/07 CR Gazette....


Ex-Cyclone Tinsley no bargain for Pacers
n a phone interview with Cedar Rapids author Dow Mossman on Monday morning, he noted Cedar Rapids native Bob Netolicky signed a pro basketball contract with the Indiana Pacers in 1967 for $18,000 and a Corvette.
Former Iowa State player Jamaal Tinsley will make $6.3 million as a Pacer this season. That’s if he doesn’t wind up in jail. Or worse.
Tinsley was in an insane situation in Indianapolis at 3:30 a.m. Sunday. He, his brother, and a group of friends were heading to Tinsley’s downtown condo after nightclubbing.
They came to the Cloud 9 club in three of Tinsley’s vehicles, including a Rolls Royce and a Mercedes.
Reportedly, people at the club gave Tinsley some grief about the cars and his salary.
After his group left the club, two vehicles followed their cars. Tinsley and company swung onto the property of a downtown hotel, where two of his vehicles were struck by several bullets from a .223 assault rifle.
Police said James Tinsley, the brother, then drove after the shooter/shooters and fired at them with a handgun. Oh, a member of Tinsley’s group was arrested for an outstanding warrant in Georgia for dealing a controlled substance.
Tinsley never played high school ball and barely saw high school classrooms growing up in Brooklyn, N.Y.
He got the chance to gain entrance to a California junior college, played great ball there, and was brought to Iowa State by Larry Eustachy.
Tinsley helped the Cyclones to back-to-back Big 12 titles.
ISU didn’t lose a home game in those two seasons.
He was the best college guard at an Iowa school in the last 20 years, if not a lot longer.
‘‘I’ve never had anybody close to his ability,’’ Eustachy said.
Tinsley was taken by Indiana in the 2001 NBA draft and had an impressive rookie season, but has frustrated Pacers fans since by being injury-prone and erratic.
It hasn’t helped that he was a willing participant in the Pacers’ famous brawl with fans at the Palace of Auburn Hills in 2004, and still faces
charges from a bar fight in Indianapolis last February. He was indicted by a grand jury on a felony charge of intimidation and three misdemeanor counts. That goes to trial next month.
Tinsley has been playing really well this season for new Pacers coach Jim O’Brien.
He’s averaging 14.8 points and 8.7 assists for a 10-10 team expected to be worse than that. He has 68 points and 29 assists in his last three games. Nice.
But there he was in the middle of the night at a bar with his Mercedes and his Rolls, with a drug-dealer and his gun-toting brother.
That stuff nauseates Indiana fans who consider basketball a special game. Not to mention Pacers President Larry Bird, who came from nothing in small-town Indiana to use all of his ability without getting in brawls and shoot-’em-ups along the way.
Netolicky was known to be familiar with late-night cocktails in his nine-year pro career. He owned a nightclub called ‘‘Neto’s’’ during most of that time, in fact.
But assault rifles and handguns probably weren’t part of his equation.
Tinsley went 27th in the 2001 NBA draft.
Tony Parker of San Antonio went 28th.
Had it been the other way around, Eva Longoria probably would never have married Parker. And Indianapolis would be a safer city today.
• Contact the writer: (319) 368-8840 or [email protected] Read Mike Hlas’ ‘‘The Hlog’’ at gazetteonline.com

 

[CyPlainsDrifter]

Not only that..... but it is an OUTRIGHT lie to say JT was involved in the brawl that happened during the game. JT was not involved in that at all and Hlas just wrote an outright lie to the contrary to find another way to paint an ex-cyclone in a bad light. What a loser.