Tamin Lipsey's back, but Keshon Gilbert won't be for third-seeded ISU in the NCAA Tournament

[madguy30]

I believe the Cincinnati game was far more important, in terms of seeding, than the BYU rematch.

Sometimes I wonder if you are ZRF, renamed.

They're swarthemore and another name from a while ago.

The 'ZRF' -Ness is bound to come out at some point.

 

[Die4Cy]

I look forward to hearing about that then

For the record i think he's on the bench supporting his team mates this weekend, but the idea that something nefarious is at play if he isn't, is bull **** as well.

The way I interpreted TJ's comments is they are still trying to determine which route is best for Gilbert with the knowledge that whichever route is chosen means he's not playing any more basketball at ISU.

Let KG figure it out.

 

[JohnnyAl]

Probably wrong but THINKING there may be more to this Gilbert thing than him being injured.....(maybe not)

and what is the purpose of going public with it.....
Why not save it till game day and let Liscomb have to prepare with the idea he will be in line-up??

Agreed 100%. I've heard the same from now 2 people i trust in Ames

 

[goody2012]

For the record i think he's on the bench supporting his team mates this weekend, but the idea that something nefarious is at play if he isn't, is bull **** as well.

The way I interpreted TJ's comments is they are still trying to determine which route is best for Gilbert with the knowledge that whichever route is chosen means he's not playing any more basketball at ISU.

Let KG figure it out.

Him or the coaches deciding not to have him travel is VERY unusual, at best.

 

[madguy30]

Him or the coaches deciding not to have him travel is VERY unusual, at best.

And if that's the case, that's the case.

It seems like the decision has been made and the team or coaches including KG are moving forward with whatever has been decided.

 

[Dgilbertson]

Explain then, if you would, what way are you reading it?

You added a bunch of words through conjecture. Like ‘not traveling with the team’

 

[Dgilbertson]

The similarities are in your rationale for why he didn’t play against BYU- a lack of upside.

You implied an increased chance of beating BYU wasn’t worth playing Lipsey due to how important having him as healthy as possible for the next week. Which in essence means the Big 12 tournament in itself has low value

The primary reason you want to win that game is to incrementally increase odds in the NCAA tournament. It’s all about this week.

AND Gilbert’s availability is clearly in jeopardy.

If you can’t close out an 8 point lead against Cincinnati without Lipsey, he’s that important, and it’s all about the NCAA, why is he playing to begin with?

There’s NCAA benefits to playing a lineup that sadly will likely be needed in the most important part of the season, in a situation like the 8 point lead in the final minutes of the Cincinnati game

Being forthright, I was already of the opinion that the maximalist approach, which works great to get on the bubble, was compromising our ability to peak in March. Managing the roster is not easy. A stated belief in load management not having a place in college basketball is manifesting in several ceiling capping things right now. And it was predictable since the early signs of wear started showing in January

I didn’t agree, then you made some good points. But it’s a long post. I’m conflicted. Well done.

 

[hobbsfan27]

TJ has over and over said his favorite two guys to coach were Gilbert and Grill. Hmm.

 

[Dgilbertson]

It was obvious he was in pain and couldn't keep up when he was in during his last game. In hindsight, would have been better to shut him completely down for the last month of the season, event that may not have made a difference. The good news is the team has learned to adjust over this last month. He is a big part of why we were 15-1. Hopefully we have the horses to get back to that level now. Probably not, but a guy can hope. Super worried Tamin's injury will limit him. In that case, we are toast.

Hindsight has no need for spectacles (gotta be a more concise way to say that)

These guys are competitors. This lingering injuries you try to do what you can and play through. Once it got to this point, I think TJ wanted clarity and made an executive call with KG.

 

[Dgilbertson]

Hines seems to like to make it sound like there could be more in his latest article online for the rag.

Hines has never been one to spuriously post a controversial story.

 

[flycy]

He decides he needs surgery to get on track for a full recovery ASAP?

Who in the world would dumb this?
If he wants to play professionally at some level, I assume he does, he should start the road to recovery ASAP. That would probably include surgery and OT, looks to be more serious watching him on the court than just rest up for a few months. I'm sure he is very disappointed and that also may not make his attitude the best to have around the team right now. It is probably best for both sides. **** happens.

 

[CloneLawman]

Hines has never been one to spuriously post a controversial story.

But does he have near double digit sources?

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Give me a rational explanation for why he might not travel with the team

A.) You don’t know that he won’t
B.) He’s having surgery and/or rehabbing in preparation for draft stuff
C.) ISU doesn’t want to pay for him to travel when there’s no chance he’ll play

 

[goody2012]

A.) You don’t know that he won’t
B.) He’s having surgery and/or rehabbing in preparation for draft stuff
C.) ISU doesn’t want to pay for him to travel when there’s no chance he’ll play

C.) ISU doesn’t want to pay for him to travel when there’s no chance he’ll play

I'm sorry, but you gotta be shitting me with this lolololol

 

[SolterraCyclone]

C.) ISU doesn’t want to pay for him to travel when there’s no chance he’ll play

I'm sorry, but you gotta be shitting me with this lolololol

That one is far-fetched, but you didn’t say likely, you said rational

 

[goody2012]

That one is far-fetched, but you didn’t say likely, you said rational

I do not consider that rational at all.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

I do not consider that rational at all.

My company cuts travel for integral members of a project all the time to save costs.

Irregardless, that example illustrates there are a number of rational reasons for him not to travel with the team outside of him being a malcontent.

Occam’s razor is because he’s injured

 

[goody2012]

My company cuts travel for integral members of a project all the time to save costs.

Irregardless, that example illustrates there are a number of rational reasons for him not to travel with the team outside of him being a malcontent.

Occam’s razor is because he’s injured

You gave me one rational reason (surgery)

 

[SolterraCyclone]

You gave me one rational reason (surgery)

A.) rehab without surgery for draft prep
B.) Save costs
C.) avoid distraction of people asking how bad his injury is, why can’t he play, etc
D.) finish school work
E.) start working on needs for the next step in his career (hire agent, NBA draft paperwork, etc.)
F.) spending time with his family
G.) who knows because it doesn’t matter

 

[goody2012]

A.) rehab without surgery for draft prep
B.) Save costs
C.) avoid distraction of people asking how bad his injury is, why can’t he play, etc
D.) finish school work
E.) start working on needs for the next step in his career (hire agent, NBA draft paperwork, etc.)
F.) spending time with his family
G.) who knows because it doesn’t matter

It doesn't matter, but you keep responding...