Strength of Schedule
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CycloneErik
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I do love their "we'll play anybody" attitude. They play mostly entertaining games, or at least have an entertaining team to watch while they destroy people.
Agree with that. Do not agree with some posters trying to minimize the SEC schedules. For the most part, they do a great job of mixing in cupcakes and quality non-conference opponents.
2011 SEC Football Schedule > SEC > NEWS
Games this year against; Boise St, Oregon, BYU, Penn State, UConn, Cincinnati, WVU, TA&M, Clemson X2, GA Tech, Florida St
The main thing is they only play 8 conference games, and the bottom SEC teams are fairly weak this year. .
It's just laughable that one season playing a 9 game conference schedule and all of a sudden egos are this big. The bottom of the SEC isn't all that different than the bottom of the BigXII.
Your ability to reason and comprehend is appalling.
The only thing relevant in a discussion of 2011 SOS is the 2011 schedule.
SEC with 12 teams has 3 below .500, Big XII with 10 teams has 2. Not much difference.
We're talking about...THIS YEAR. So the 9 game schedule is about the most relevant thing that this thread could talk about.
The Big 12 was nearly undefeated in non-conference...then the media tries to sell us that we MUST have a championship game with only the SEC. An SEC conference that plays an extra cupcake game the Big 12 doesn't have and has a worse bottom than the Big 12.
ISU and Tech are for all intents and purposes the second and third to last teams in the conference. They are definitely better than the bottom of the SEC, as in 40-80 spots higher in any computer ranking. That ends your ridiculous argument that the SEC and Big 12 are similar at the bottom.
Bottom 4 in computer ranking of Big 12:
#16
#22
#29
#66
Bottom 4 in computer ranking of SEC:
#42
#47
#72
#102
LSU is awesome and they played a meat grinder schedule, I think they should be in the title game even if they lose a game. The rest of the SEC has a much easier path to run the table than the Big 12 in 2011. I don't get why it HAS to be Alabama, they struggled with an FCS team last week, that level of play could easily have been a loss if they played a 2011 Big 12 schedule.
Plus LSU already beat Alabama IN THEIR HOUSE. Alabama is not the best team in the nation, let's see if someone else can beat LSU.
True. Keep in mind that the B12 has more conference games with the round robin. Tech could easily be at .500, by swapping a league loss for a non-conference win.
I am loving the overflow of homer-ism in this thread. Sure, the Big 12 is a hell of a conference this year. But you don't match up conferences in the BCS title game, you match up teams.
To the guy who says Alabama struggled with an FCS team last week: 20-19 is a struggle. 45-21 is a beatdown.
Sixteen points is the smallest margin of victory in any of their wins this year. They went out of conference on the road and won at Penn State, a 9-win team this year from the Big 10 conference. They took the #1 unbeaten team in the country to overtime, and some are saying this LSU team may be one of the all time greats. They easily pass the eye test. Oklahoma State looks like a good team, but they lost to an unranked team that they were favored to beat by four touchdowns. Anyone who says Alabama isn't the second-best team in the country is either a homer or a ******.
LSU looks like they belong and they have beat some very good teams to prove it. I think it is safe to say that ISU has done pretty darn good to win 6 games this year. Let's go get #7 and see where we end up playing.
Read again. I said they're not the best team. They lost AT HOME.
Why do we need that game again? It's extremely unfair to LSU after they already beat them on the road.
There's a lot of presumption assuming that Alabama is clearly the second best team.
If we had a REAL playoff then it would be awesome for a rematch of two great teams in a championship game. Since we have a fake BS two game playoff, it's the most stupid thing in the world to have a rematch, especially when the #2 seed in the two team playoff already lost at home to the #1 team.
But the argument is about the discrepancy between the human voters and the computers with regards to the Big 12 conference and the SEC. If the computers are correct, and the Big 12 is far better than the SEC, then OkState should get the nod over Alabama both because they've played a tougher schedule AND because ISU is better than the humans think. Alabama's schedule was weaker, but their loss was not as bad (yes, LSU is better than ISU).
BUT if you believe the humans, then all that really matters is:
A) LSU is better than ISU. (this is a good argument)
2) Alabama lost earlier in the year than OkState. (Had they lost to us early in the year, I bet they would have gotten above Alabama whey they lost to LSU, and would have moved to #2 when everyone else lost last week.)
Seriously -- that's really about it from the human voters viewpoint. OkState's only real hope is that the human voters decide they don't want a rematch and vote OkState ahead of Alabama.
KidSilverhair
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Oh, they're good, all right. But there is one thing we already know FOR SURE about Alabama:
They aren't as good as LSU.
Why would you be asking them to play again? You get a do-over, just because SEC football is the best ever? Look, my opinion is that LSU is far and away the top team this season. There just isn't any clear-cut number 2: Bama is right up there, sure, but there's several 1-loss teams that ought to get a shot at the title.
Bama had their shot, they lost. That was their playoff game, like it or not, and they indeed proved (in Tuscaloosa, no less) that they weren't able to beat LSU. Can anybody do that this year? Probably not, but it's time to give somebody a shot.
Not only do SEC teams play one fewer conference game, but half of their top teams don't even play each other. Neither of the top two teams in the East played either of the top two teams in the West, and vice versa obviously. The #3 team in the West only played one of the top two East teams. When half of your top teams aren't even playing each other, you end up with an inflated record.
I know...I know.
Let's say you win your 4 OOC games, beat the first three, and win one of the last three. That's 8-4 for the season. In the SEC, that gets you the Outback or Cotton Bowl.
With the exception of Kansas, what team in the Big 12 is equal to the mid-major OOC opponents that everybody schedules?
more impressive is the entire list of big 12 teams. compare that to the sec. do we really hold all top ten spots in the country? wowza
1. Kansas
2. Texas A&M
3. Iowa State
4. Texas
5. Mizzou
6. Baylor
7. Texas Tech
8. Oklahoma St.
9. Kansas St.
10. Oklahoma
11. Auburn
12. Mississippi
13. Tennessee
20. LSU
21. Florida
22. Mississippi St.
23. Alabama
28. Arkansas
32. Vandy
33. South Carolina
39. Georgia
41. Kentucky
1. Kansas
2. Texas A&M
3. Iowa State
4. Texas
5. Mizzou
6. Baylor
7. Texas Tech
8. Oklahoma St.
9. Kansas St.
10. Oklahoma
11. Auburn
12. Mississippi
13. Tennessee
20. LSU
21. Florida
22. Mississippi St.
23. Alabama
28. Arkansas
32. Vandy
33. South Carolina
39. Georgia
41. Kentucky
I think maybe the conference AD's will look at this as a reason to NOT play a 9 game conference schedule. Yay for us but man what a tough conference. Wish the SEC bias wasn't there.
