The burden of proof started with madguy’s contention it wouldn’t have gotten better. It was getting generally better, and there’s nothing tangible to say it wouldn’t have continued. First year at NU stats and NBA stuff? If that’s all you have, you’re just on a smear campaign.
And now the burden is on you. I would hope you’d be familiar enough with logic structure to know that your claim that something in 2020 will be the same as 2015 has just as much burden of proof. You’ve yet to prove the axiom that “you are what you are” is true, or even more, what is Hoiberg?
It’s likely Hoiberg wasn’t a finished product at ISU. But perhaps everything is static like you suggest. Perhaps the defense would be the same in Year 10 as Year 5, but if that’s your logic, no wonder you’re blindsided by FAMU. How can we be bad at defense when Prohm had a season in the top-50? Things don’t change and are what they are!
We were all blindsided by FAMU. If you were so sure about it beforehand, then you should be rolling in cash after breaking the house in Las Vegas.
I doubt you are doing that, so we will continue.
I knew/know this team had problems, and we all know them. They cannot shoot yet keep jacking shots, they are "playing big" but not dominating the boards, Haliburton has to do everything, and big moments (the Iowa game) intimidate them. We could probably keep going, but this roster construction is inherently awkward.
The notion they might win 4-6 games in the Big 12 was not/is not utterly shocking to me. I would have predicted a little higher and was taking a "wait and see" approach when there was plenty of basketball left to be played, but I saw those problems, too. They still might surprise us even after that debacle, or they might suck.
The suck case definitely got a lot stronger after Iowa and FAMU.
I think you are still missing the point on Fred -- you say he was a "young coach" (somewhat true, hold that thought) that might have learned more or committed more to defense in the future. That
might have been the case, but Fred Hoiberg has been a head coach at one level or another for almost a decade now. It is not 2012. We have a track record.
I doubt Fred never improves much on defense because being dominant on offense was part of his shtick, his brand, and his philosophy, the same way the Air Raid is for Leach and those on his coaching tree (all the way to Lincoln Riley). Fred recruited guys who could shoot and score first and foremost, he coached them to do more of the same, and his game plans favored outscoring people instead of trying to stop them.
You can say he might have changed. I say, after a decade, he is who he is. It is an entire mindset or philosophy of basketball.