let’s just say if Vanth dies I riot, my guess is he doesn’t, too easy
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No chance he's dead. They're just setting it up so he can say "And this time... it's personal" in the next episode
I'll just go ahead and say it -- I hate that they're dangling the Mandalorian carrot in front of us and treating it as if it's part of the same show.
Spoilers from here on out cause it's gonna get messy:
So much to love about tonight's episode, but it's so obviously out of place of the general Boba Fett narrative that neither episode could have been intentionally written for this series. I refuse to believe it.
Spoilers from here on out cause it's gonna get messy:
I LOVE seeing Din Djarin again and I really want to love these two episodes but I feel like they just rush ordered the first two episodes of Mandalorian Season 3 to save this series. Seeing Grogu train with Luke should have been a much better moment than it was. The bar bombing in Mos Espa was awkwardly placed as hell, as if to remind us of which show we're watching.
So much to love about tonight's episode, but it's so obviously out of place of the general Boba Fett narrative that neither episode could have been intentionally written for this series. I refuse to believe it.
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They didn't rush order anything. They wrapped filming back in June. These episodes are shown once a week. There's not enough time for them to slap entire episodes together and go in a completely unintended narrative direction like you're suggesting. It just doesn't work like that.
They’ve been filming both series close together. Obviously they didn’t just pull it out of their ass. But I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest that they already had the first couple of episodes of Season 3 close to completion.
If they intended to have these episodes as part of the Boba Fett series, then I really have no words. They’re great episodes on their own but literally have nothing to do with the narrative of the Book of Boba Fett.
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But think of the scenes that specifically deal with the Boba Fett plot, featuring some of the cameo characters. The entire segment with
Cobb and Mando and then Cad Bane. They talk about Boba Fett and the plot of the show
Not to mention, Boba Fett wrapped shooting in June. Mando season 3 didn't start until October, and has been on a break since December. There's no chance in hell that Disney panicked after 3 episodes and cobbled together footage from another series to add in. It's just not feasible. Not on that short of notice.
Is Boba Fett making some weird narrative choices? Yes. Definitely. But that's the extent of it.
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Now, one plot point I have an issue with is why the Pykes need to transport spice across Tatooine by train or speeder or any other land based method of travel. If they need to move it around the planet, that's one thing, but this is set in a universe where every orphan moisture farmer has a T16 or some other space capable ship. Why the hell is a rich and powerful crime syndicate transporting goods by train through lands that they're paying protection to the owners for?
I thought the same thing during the episode of the Mandalorian where they had to drive that thing with the explody cargo. That didn't make a bit of sense to me.
There are a quite a few things like this in Star Wars. Like how do they know which city on the planet to go to to find the person or thing they are looking for? I understand that there is probably a central port for ships to go to, but after that?
Didn't they mention something like repulsor drives made the material unstable, so that's why it had to be hauled by wheeled vehicles? There's always some hand wavy thing like that in sci-fi.
The spice exchange thing was ever dumber though. We're those 4 guys doing the exchange of money for spice? They were all Pykes and they all came in the same speeder. Driving out to the middle of nowhere serves what purpose exactly? Was it one of those dead drop things, where they collect the money and leave the spice, then the buyer comes later to pick it up? Tatooine is a sparsely populated planet whose few cities ranges from barely organized crime to a bunch of yokels farming moisture. None of it makes a whole lot of sense logistically.
I think we can all admit we never thought a Naboo N-1 Starfighter could end up being so cool
For certain. Like how is your titular character barely even in 2 straight episodes? Maybe this is Favreau and Filoni leaning into the less Boba is more philosophy that made him famous among fans in the fist place. To me it feels like the last episode is going to be super rushed unless it has a long run time. And since Rodriguez directed the final one, I'm not sure what to expect.
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No idea why they decided to go this way. Having a single departure episode that focuses on a side character is not that uncommon. But two episodes in a row where the title character barely appears is not traditional storytelling at all. That doesn't mean it can't work, but it definitely feels disjointed.
It's possible (and most likely probable), like in Marvel movies, that this is leading up to something in the bigger overarching story arch being told by individual stories.
Not to mention enough Spice to buy cities is being transported in Granny's jewelry box, rather than in a sealed stabilized container. All of the scenes set out in the Dune Sea in both shows just lean hardddd into the spaghetti western motif.
I think I'm in the minority that I've liked the first 4 episodes and I'm okay with the route they've taken Boba as he tries to be a crime boss. It seems like a savvy bounty hunter would understand that there is a difference in ruling a criminal empire compared to hunting down a person. The moped gang though, woof, felt like they should have had more run down beat up bikes versus the shiny rides they had.
The Mando focused episode have been great, though they do feel oddly placed. It almost seems like they had the full story of Boba with the Tuskens and then the Pykes decided, then decided at the last minute to add in the Mando stuff. It probably would have been better for the overall story if they sprinkled all of that throughout the show rather than diverting for two episodes. I think they should have been more upfront about the Pykes being the big bad guys early on. This last episode did a better job of showing the threat they are with the club bombing and Cad Bane. Also bringing in Space Seth Bullock (Cob Vanth) to show that the spice running is a problem for the locals (even though the logic of spice running on planet is a jump). All in all I think they've set the stakes a little better with the Tatooine scenes this episode.
The Mando focused episode have been great, though they do feel oddly placed. It almost seems like they had the full story of Boba with the Tuskens and then the Pykes decided, then decided at the last minute to add in the Mando stuff. It probably would have been better for the overall story if they sprinkled all of that throughout the show rather than diverting for two episodes. I think they should have been more upfront about the Pykes being the big bad guys early on. This last episode did a better job of showing the threat they are with the club bombing and Cad Bane. Also bringing in Space Seth Bullock (Cob Vanth) to show that the spice running is a problem for the locals (even though the logic of spice running on planet is a jump). All in all I think they've set the stakes a little better with the Tatooine scenes this episode.
I definitely think that the whole thing could have been done better. I absolutely loved seeing Luke, R2, Asohka, Mando, Cobb, Cad Bane. But I don't know that it really fits into the story they're trying to tell. They could have easily made the Luke part as a flashback for Mando S3E1 and just had him show back up on Tatooine.
I love the crew Boba is starting to put together other than the biker gang. If they really wanted to do it right, they would have had Mando talk Luke into coming with him to fight for his home planet. Get a huge battle with Boba and crew plus Luke and Asohka vs Pykes and Cad Bane. Maybe Rogue Squadron coming in to save the day late with Wedge. Then make Grogu make his choice at the end of the finale.
I love the crew Boba is starting to put together other than the biker gang. If they really wanted to do it right, they would have had Mando talk Luke into coming with him to fight for his home planet. Get a huge battle with Boba and crew plus Luke and Asohka vs Pykes and Cad Bane. Maybe Rogue Squadron coming in to save the day late with Wedge. Then make Grogu make his choice at the end of the finale.
I didn’t realize this, I’ve never been less excited for a finale now. And I’ve slogged through Hawkeye.
And if it was a cold drop / dead drop, why'd they choose that place? I assume they have GPS or some kind of tech for pinpointing locations ... just pick a spot in the middle of the desert!
Was it implying that the chest was filled with spice, or just plain sand? (like they ripped someone off)
