stabbing outside of pella middle school
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Just one more thing for teachers to do....set in on a few classes and see that they already have their hands full.
Do you know something I don't? Dad? I thought you passed away a long time ago?
Give them a smart phone and put restrictions on it. Parental controls have come a long ways and you can control what they use and how long they use it for. Problem is that most schools are giving students Chromebooks that are more difficult to lock down as they are setup with student accounts that you don’t have control over. So banning devices completely is a losing battle. Embrace the tech, control it, and educate your kids on its usage.
I'm in my 40's and I had an elementary teacher that spanked students as he escorted them out of the classroom. It was still legal to paddle students in Texas at least til the early 2000's.
It's a fact that you're a little unhinged right now and should back away from the keyboard.
No one is left out when the school takes them away from everyone.
There are way more issues with phones and social media, than when without. And its not even close.
Clarinda wasnt the only facility.
Woodward comes to mind. Not sure how many total there are.
You must have missed the part of my post where I said I agree that during the school day phones should not be allowed.
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My kids are the same. I was debating what age I should allow them to be on Facebook and Instagram, etc. and then come to find out kids have no interest in that anyway.
For my kids it’s mainly Snapchat, TikTok, and YouTube. And my nieces and nephews (who are a bit older) are into a bunch of apps I had never heard of like BeReal.
And also, the more that I thought about it I started to feel like the bullying behavior I was trying to protect them from is going to be there with simple texting even if I never allowed them on these other apps.
They all started giant group chats with all their friends just from their iPads before I ever gave them a phone anyway. I’m not even sure how they got connected on there, one kid figures it out and they tell others and pretty soon all the kids know how.
Blaming everything on phones is missing the bigger issue. The lack of discipline in general is a bigger problem IMO. If a kid is being bullied at school, the school has no ability to intervene anymore. And at home, there’s too many parents that don’t care. All they care about is whether they will be inconvenienced with having to come to the school to meet with the principal or pick up their kid. Which leads to them making waves if the school tries to suspend a kid. And the school will always cave to a parent that makes those waves. So you have situations that keep progressing until they boil over.
Cause we see this same issue with younger kids that do not have phones.
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i mean most younger kids are being raised on phones/tablets from the time they can hold something these days but I get your point
I never said everything was because of phones.
I said phones cause issues. Way more issues than without. Phones and access to all types of social media instant messaging etc. causes way more issues, from bullying, privacy issues, etc. to just plain distractions.
Parents and kids think phones are necessary to daily life. They think they have to have that access at all times. Both are not true. Kids can and do, manage just fine without them. Parents can and do manage to contact them through the school all the time. My kids schools banned all phones and smart watches. Both kids have smart watches, one is allowed to wear theirs because it is in school mode during the day and only is able to be a watch, the other has to leave it home or in their bag, even in school mode. And... we manage just fine. There is nothing that we need to get ahold of them for that can not be relayed through the office.
And the fact that a few on here are saying the info came out faster from kids with phones than from school or authorities all I can say is of course, but that doesnt make it better. Kids panic, parents panic, information gets told wrong, and just causes more chaos.
In a safety situation it is the school and the authorities first priority to get the situation under control, make sure everyone is safe and the situation resolved. Before, talking to anyone, and causing more mass panic and confusion. In a severe situation having parents, media, and other bystanders showing up, trying to intervene, trying to enter and or remove kids only makes the situation worse. It only complicates everything, and in turn can cause more people to get hurt.
What good is it going to do if a parent rushes into the school, gets themselves in the line of fire so to speak, and hinders the duties of officials trying to get things under control or eliminate the threat? A parent rushing in trying to get involved, trying to take their child out of a locked and safe location to an open and vulnerable location is not a good situation.
In any case if my kids were in a situation like this I understand the want to get instant info, I can understand the want to intervene and try to remove my kid from the situation etc. But in many cases until the threat is eliminated and the situation is under control, doing such things only makes it worse.
I don't disagree with some of this but the simple reality is that phones and social media are here and it's not going back.
saw some pics of the one girl, it really was kind of a stabbing motion that landed just shy of her neck. thank goodness she was wearing a hoodie, knife created quarter-sized hole near where the hood and sweatshirt meet near the collarbone. the actual cut on her was very small, but to create the hole in the hoodie it did have some force behind it.
the "cafeteria" area at the middle schools is right inside the main entry doors. you walk in to a big open space and that's the "cafeteria" which you basically have to walk through to get anywhere else in the school. so yes to both questions.
