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[Tre4ISU]

It's Justin Stewart not Thomas FYI...And my guess is this cat will start the minute he starts practice..just a hunch..

Payne will Start at CB all the way IMO. Nikel? Could actually see Tribune move there..

Last one..Safety- Everett Edwards. Think this kid will be good. Played behind a NFL safety for 2 years at Duke..kid has the physical tools and is clearly highly intelligent.

And since when is Glenn out? Or did I space this off..

You come up with some interesting stuff that's wrong. Which guard spot is Campos going to play?

I always have to laugh at the Wiltz vs. Tribune discussion. It's as if people don't remember Wiltz getting torched.

 

[Beyerball]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jones started at corner. He's not prototypical, but can play. Bobek could maybe play guard if they like Good-Jones more than the guard options.

Yea J Jones won't be starting at Corner..doesn't have the speed or hips..but I def can see him playing corner in a dime package or Red zone coverage..covering the TE..That I can def see.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I think Good-Jones could slide over to guard maybe too, that way we don't have a freshman playing center, making line calls.

The thing about that, though, is you can protect a freshman center if he isn't quite physically ready. I'm also a believer that a lot of times a freshman is either capable of playing center or he never will be from a mental standpoint. Certainly they get better but with a new scheme and I'm guessing terminology, no one had an advantage there.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jones started at corner. He's not prototypical, but can play. Bobek could maybe play guard if they like Good-Jones more than the guard options.

I think Bobek starts at some point if he's healthy. That's a really good pick up. He's been good when he's played.

 

[Tre4ISU]

On defense, I don't know what they play to do with the secondary. My feeling is that they will want to do what a lot of teams have done and put their best athlete at the nickel as a space destroyer. That means you have a guy that can handle everything behind the line of scrimmage in the slot and make the screen game basically unusable. Teams have started putting studs there because there isn't a poor matchup for them in the passing game and they are really tough to block in the running game. Right now, I expect Payne to be in the slot because there are a few true corners that would be serviceable. I don't know if you have another guy outside of Jones to plug into that NB spot at this point and I'm still kind of surprised they moved him from there because he's a natural box safety type of player.

 

[Beyerball]

You come up with some interesting stuff that's wrong. Which guard spot is Campos going to play?

I always have to laugh at the Wiltz vs. Tribune discussion. It's as if people don't remember Wiltz getting torched.

What did I post that was so wrong? And CMC and Manning have both said that they want all Oline to learn all positions to be able to have flexibility...Campos will never play OT in the NFL.If he makes the NFL it will be at Guard. You continue to want to argue with me that I made some radical comment about campos playing guard and it's not that far fetched. KO plays Guard in the NFL...KO. Scherff will play Guard in the NFL...Scherff. What I meant by my comment is we are sitting better at Tackle arguably than the interior and if a guy like JGJ developed and was able to play Tackle this year moving a guy like Campos inside wouldn't surprise me..That's all.

 

[Tre4ISU]

What did I post that was so wrong? And CMC and Manning have both said that they want all Oline to learn all positions to be able to have flexibility...Campos will never play OT in the NFL.If he makes the NFL it will be at Guard. You continue to want to argue with me that I made some radical comment about campos playing guard and it's not that far fetched. KO plays Guard in the NFL...KO. Scherff will play Guard in the NFL...Scherff. What I meant by my comment is we are sitting better at Tackle arguably than the interior and if a guy like JGJ developed and was able to play Tackle this year moving a guy like Campos inside wouldn't surprise me..That's all.

If Campos can't play tackle at the NFL level he won't be there. I can't think of someone we've had here in a long time less comparable to KO than Jake Campos. Maybe Jarvis West, I guess. Payne won't play corner and Tribune sure as hell won't be a playing the nickel spot. That's basically a safety and Tribune is not one of those. Stewart also isn't starting right away.

 

[Beyerball]

You come up with some interesting stuff that's wrong. Which guard spot is Campos going to play?

I always have to laugh at the Wiltz vs. Tribune discussion. It's as if people don't remember Wiltz getting torched.

What other stuff have a come up with thats' wrong? Given its a message board full of speculation and inaccuracies..

 

[TNT]

You come up with some interesting stuff that's wrong. Which guard spot is Campos going to play?

I always have to laugh at the Wiltz vs. Tribune discussion. It's as if people don't remember Wiltz getting torched.

Ok, so Wiltz got beat, but did you ever watch all of the times that Tribune got lit-up?

Wiltz has more potential than Tribune, because he has the ability to turn and run, unlike Tribune.

 

[isucy86]

I think Waggoner has only played LDE, but I would like to see him on the right side as a starter. He reminds me a bit of Morrissey who played on the right side. Any word on if Mitchell Meyers will see action? I'd guess his stamina isn't what it once was, but he is a tough football player. Remember when he drilled Iowa's QB a coupleasure years ago after a whistle and the Iowa fans wentry nuts?

DMR has an article on Mitchel Meyer. He has been working out with team all summer. No guarantee he plays on DL this fall, but he sounded optimistic. It would be great if he could play some role- he always played with a great motor. At a minimum it would be nice to get him on the field in pass rushing situations. I would think there is a better shot he plays DE vs. DT.

 

[Beyerball]

If Campos can't play tackle at the NFL level he won't be there. I can't think of someone we've had here in a long time less comparable to KO than Jake Campos. Maybe Jarvis West, I guess. Payne won't play corner and Tribune sure as hell won't be a playing the nickel spot. That's basically a safety and Tribune is not one of those. Stewart also isn't starting right away.

First..On Stewart..I said it was just a hunch..I didn't come out and say Stewart is all big 12. Second, if you think Campos is a NFL OT great..HOpe you are right.. I don't..KO was as impressive of an OT that we've had her at ISU maybe ever..His Long Arms and speed for his size made him perfect for OT in college not to mention his strength. Maybe Campos will continue to perfect his craft and improve as he likely will..I'm not going to turn this into a Campos ******** session..You have your view and I have mine..Time will tell. Apparently you are the expert. Last..Payne from what I understand and have heard from coaches on podcasts can play multiple DB positions. I don't know what happened to Tribue his Soph year but it appeared as though he's slid down the chart. I don't see him starting at CB so maybe he gets more time at Nickel..He's physical...What I find amusing is you consistently nitpicking everything I type on any msg board when they are just my opinion...

 

[demoncore1031]

QB:
Joel Lanning
Jacob Park
Kyle Kempt
***Zeb Noland redshirts.

RB:
Mike Warren
Sheldon Croney
Kene Nwangwu
Mitch Harger
***David Montgomery redshirts
***Look for the TE's to play some FB, and we might see some of the RB's line up there; Justin Webster, Brian Bonacci etc.

WR:
Allen Lazard
Darius Lee-Campbell
Brandon Harris

WR:
Trever Ryen
Deshaunte Jones
Carson Epps
Amechie Walker
Orion Salters

WR:
Dondre Daley
Hakeem Butler
Carson Epps
***Jalen Martin could see time here but likely redshirts unless needed due to injury.

TE:
Cliff Fernandez
Justin Chandler
Chase Allen or Dylan Soehner (the other will redshirt)
Cole Anderson

LT:
Jake Campos
Shawn Curtis
Bryce Meeker
Brian Seda

LG:
Nick Fett
Karson Green
Bryan Larson
Breion Creer

C:
Brian Bobak (sp?)
Julian Good-Jones
Patrick Scoggins
Karson Green

RG:
Oge Udeogu
Karson Green
Patrick Scoggins
Will Windham

RT:
Jaypee Philbert Jr.
Kory Kodanko
Bryce Meeker
Shawn Curtis

LDE:
Jhaustin Thomas
Gabe Luna
Mitchell Meyers
Seth Nerness
***Eyioma Uwazurike could see time here if needed.

DT:
Demond Tucker
Vernell Trent
Jamahl Johnson

NG:
Pierre Aka
Bobby Leath
Robby Garcia

RDE:
J.D. Waggoner
Justin Stewart
Sam Seonbuchner
Josh Coleman

LB:
Willie Harvey
Kane Seeley
Brian Mills
Bobby McMillen III

LB:
Reggan Northrup
Brian Mills
Marcel Spears Jr.


CB:
Brian Peavy
Jomal Wiltz
Nigel Tribune

CB:
D'Andre Payne
Nigel Tribune
Jarnor Jones
Stephon Pickett-Brown

S:
Kamari Cotton-Moya
Everett Edwards
Vic Holmes
Jordan Wallace

S:
Mike Johnson
Thadd Daniels
Mackenro Alexander
De'Monte Ruth

N:
Thadd Daniels
Everett Edwards
Jarnor Jones
Nigel Tribune

K:
Cole Netten
Chris Francis

P:
Colin Downing

LS:
Steven Wirtel
Quinn Sonntag

KR:
Trever Ryen
Jomal Wiltz
D'Andre Payne
Deshaunte Jones

PR:
Trever Ryen
Deshaunte Jones
D'Andre Payne
Orion Salters
Amechie Walker

 

[Tre4ISU]

Ok, so Wiltz got beat, but did you ever watch all of the times that Tribune got lit-up?

Wiltz has more potential than Tribune, because he has the ability to turn and run, unlike Tribune.

I'm not the one who put a former starter at 3rd string based on a narrative that was created and then piled on by seemingly everyone because Tribune got next to no help over the top because our LBer play often dictated that the safeties had to be incredibly involved at the second level. I'm fine with Wiltz starting and I would guess he probably will but to make it sound as if he was anywhere near perfect or even significantly better than Tribune just isn't factually accurate.

 

[demoncore1031]

I'm not the one who put a former starter at 3rd string based on a narrative that was created and then piled on by seemingly everyone because Tribune got next to no help over the top because our LBer play often dictated that the safeties had to be incredibly involved at the second level. I'm fine with Wiltz starting and I would guess he probably will but to make it sound as if he was anywhere near perfect or even significantly better than Tribune just isn't factually accurate.

Wiltz was not good last year. He and Tribune both got lit up on deep passes all year long. Tribune at least put himself in position to get some INT's, but he can't catch. I would like to see them both as 2nd stringers backing up Peavy and Payne.

 

[bozclone]

We need Croney to step up and play well. Obviously, Warren can not play all the snaps. We need a backup running back that we can count on. I rewatched his high school tape. He looks like he follows his blocks really well and is quick in his decision making. If he can bring this to the field this year, he should be a solid backup.

[video]http://www.hudl.com/video/3/2034375/5721c4269a91677e749318a3[/video]

 

[Stormin]

You come up with some interesting stuff that's wrong. Which guard spot is Campos going to play?

I always have to laugh at the Wiltz vs. Tribune discussion. It's as if people don't remember Wiltz getting torched.

I guess we just remember Tribune getting torched as well and his hands of stone. Tribune had opportunities for a couple Pick 6's that were relatively easy and just dropped them. Frustrating. Remember a few years ago and CPR was touting Tribune as if he was a lock down corner. Lot of hype, not close to true.

 

[isucy86]

Wiltz was not good last year. He and Tribune both got lit up on deep passes all year long. Tribune at least put himself in position to get some INT's, but he can't catch. I would like to see them both as 2nd stringers backing up Peavy and Payne.

Unless a new guy emerges (which is entirely possible), with our 5 db formation we will need Tribune or Wiltz to start at CB. I think the bigger key is our 2nd safety. Cotton-Moya has been a good player who needs to take that next step and play at an All Big12 level. If we can find another quality safety, that will help our CB play.

The good thing about a new coaching staff is every player gets a clean slate. How they played in prior years is ancient history. New coaches, new formations, new techniques may enhance the play of some guys and I fully expect to see 3-4 surprise starters emerge

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Tribune tackles well, thats the main reason IMO he was on the field. He doesn't have the recovery speed to get torched without over the top help, most people don't. I think they both have strengths and will see plenty of significant minutes this year. Starter won't be AS important with this new coaching staff because they have already made a point to say they will be rotating several people in the defensive back field.

 

[Stormin]

IMO, I see Bobek as winning the Center job. Experienced and if healthy would probably be more consistent than RS Freshman Good-Jones. Less of a learning curve. Also, I think that Everett Edwards gets to start at Safety. Like Peavey at one CB for sure. Probably Wiltz or Payne at the other. See Tribune as a backup. At Linebacker we will definitely have Harvey. I see Brian Mills to beat out Kane Seeley. We will see.

 

[Beyerball]

#111 out of #127...That's where this defense ranked in pass defense last year...#111. Some on here seem to think that starters in the past are going to magically transform and become much better in pass coverage. Maybe it was coaching..Maybe it was scheme..idk..but what I do know is that our DBs got torched..a lot at times. There were bright spots..I think Peavy is going to be real good.

Our DBs and Safeties dropped soon many INT's last year right in there hands. I mean this isn't something new..we all watched the games. There is a very good reason why since CMC and staff came on board that they have brought in a dozen new DB commits (Some obviously not signed yet)..It is clear to me they want to completely transform the secondary is a nice way of putting it.

Lonnie Johnson- won't be here
Mackenro Alexander- Transfer
Thadd Daniels- JUCO
Everett Edwards- Transfer
Deandre Payne- Transfer

Clearly this staff felt the need to transform this secondary in a hurry. Also..I forgot about the WR transfer from Illinois Murdoch? Will be interesting to see if he breaks into the depth chart and where.