So many reasons to boycott tonights CFP title game

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College Football is not equivalent to the NFL and it doesn't have to be to find it enjoyable. Nearly every championship tournament in college sports involves having invitations not based on conference championships. And they're all fun!

Exactly. I personally don't enjoy the NFL but love college. I don't want college to be anything like the NFL.
 

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College Football is not equivalent to the NFL and it doesn't have to be to find it enjoyable. Nearly every championship tournament in college sports involves having invitations not based on conference championships. And they're all fun!
Well said. I'd still like to see an expanded playoff, with automatic qualifiers from the power 5. 8 teams feels right to me. 5 conference champs and 3 based on resume.
 
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Exactly. I personally don't enjoy the NFL but love college. I don't want college to be anything like the NFL.

I don't mind NFL and enjoy the playoffs but the 'chaos' of college football is way more interesting. Give me an 'upset alert' type of college game in mid-October over most bowls or Sunday pro football.

From an entertainment perspective, the push for expanded college playoffs has a strong 'boredom' outcome because we already have playoffs in the NFL and in pretty much any scenario college won't be as interesting.
 

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"Four-team playoff"
- Man, the #5 team sure got robbed on that one!

"Eight-team playoff"
- Man, the #9 team sure got robbed on that one!

"12-team playoff"
- Man, the #13 team sure got robbed on that one!

"Every team in College Football playoff"
- There are too many teams in the playoffs and it's boring.
 

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I heard yesterday that talks fell apart for the 12 team playoff scenario. I guess they aren't even considering an 8 team playoff, that would make way too much sense.
 

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I heard yesterday that talks fell apart for the 12 team playoff scenario. I guess they aren't even considering an 8 team playoff, that would make way too much sense.
They were considering an 8 team playoff as well. It also failed. The report I read said that there were several different options presented for an expanded playoff, and each one faced significant opposition. The only conference that was in favor of all of the options was the Pac 12.


"These six models include:

1. Qualification for the best 12 teams;
2. Automatic qualifications (AQs) for the six highest rated conference champions and six at-large bids (“6+6”) (the original proposal made by the CFP sub-committee in June of 2021);
3. AQs for the Autonomy Five conferences and one AQ for the highest ranked Group of Five champion, along with six at-large bids (“5+1+6”);
4. Qualification for the best eight teams;
5. AQs for the six highest rated conference champions and two at-large bids (“6+2”); and
6. AQs for the Autonomy Five conferences and one AQ for the highest ranked Group of Five champion, along with two at-large bids (“5+1+2”)"
 
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"Four-team playoff"
- Man, the #5 team sure got robbed on that one!

"Eight-team playoff"
- Man, the #9 team sure got robbed on that one!

"12-team playoff"
- Man, the #13 team sure got robbed on that one!

"Every team in College Football playoff"
- There are too many teams in the playoffs and it's boring.

Add this: This sucks, why is Alabama still in the Championship?
 

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I heard yesterday that talks fell apart for the 12 team playoff scenario. I guess they aren't even considering an 8 team playoff, that would make way too much sense.
No kidding. Just give an auto spot for all 5 P5 champions, the highest ranked g5 champion, and 2 highest ranked at large spots. This year would have been Georgia and Notre Dame. Seems like that makes sense to me.
 

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They were considering an 8 team playoff as well. It also failed. The report I read said that there were several different options presented for an expanded playoff, and each one faced significant opposition. The only conference that was in favor of all of the options was the Pac 12.


"These six models include:

1. Qualification for the best 12 teams;
2. Automatic qualifications (AQs) for the six highest rated conference champions and six at-large bids (“6+6”) (the original proposal made by the CFP sub-committee in June of 2021);
3. AQs for the Autonomy Five conferences and one AQ for the highest ranked Group of Five champion, along with six at-large bids (“5+1+6”);
4. Qualification for the best eight teams;
5. AQs for the six highest rated conference champions and two at-large bids (“6+2”); and
6. AQs for the Autonomy Five conferences and one AQ for the highest ranked Group of Five champion, along with two at-large bids (“5+1+2”)"

“Best eight” according to whom? See, that’s the problem (in my view, I know not everyone agrees with me, I can live with that).
 

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I have not read all of these replies, but the votes of not approving expanded playoff are not surprising. There was going to be a rubber stamp positive vote in the first two weeks of August until all hell broke loose.

The Big tin and the ACC are dragging their feet because they are afraid of the continued growth of the SEC.

The Big tin and the ACC still have a superiority complex, even though it is false to everyone else, about which conferences are best and who are the smartest people. That is the game that is now being played.

Also, the big tin is still dreaming of the past when the Rose bowl was the granddaddy of them all. With playoff expansions, that is gone forever along with the meaning and the power of most other bowls.

Also, the OUT contingent, are nervously awaiting and wanting expansion.
 
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I don’t understand the logic of eliminating a team with one loss early in the year, but not eliminating a team that has one loss in late November if they both have played competitive schedules. Probably a holdover from pre-playoff days in my head. I do think that money drives all the decisions and Disney has decided that SEC and Big Ten is how they make the most money. They gear their hype machine to the outcome we got.
 
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I don’t understand the logic of eliminating a team with one loss early in the year, but not eliminating a team that has one loss in late November if they both have played competitive schedules. Probably a holdover from pre-playoff days in my head. I do think that money drives all the decisions and Disney has decided that SEC and Big Ten is how they make the most money. They gear their hype machine to the outcome we got.

Actually a lot of times you are forgiven for an early season lost but not a late season loss. An early season loss allows you to climb back up in the rankings as the season goes on.
 

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I don’t understand the logic of eliminating a team with one loss early in the year, but not eliminating a team that has one loss in late November if they both have played competitive schedules. Probably a holdover from pre-playoff days in my head. I do think that money drives all the decisions and Disney has decided that SEC and Big Ten is how they make the most money. They gear their hype machine to the outcome we got.
Every team that failed to make the playoffs had two losses this year except Notre Dame.
 
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No 2 loss teams has ever made it in.

Ohio State 2018 is the only P5 champ with one loss to miss out.

Baylor and TCU did their thing that first year.

The system seems like it does well to crown a champion, even if it sucks that the SEC happens to get so many of those.

SeasonP5 – ChampionP5 – Other 0/1-loss teamsG5 – Ranked championP5 – ChampionP5 – Other 0/1-loss teamsG5 – Ranked champion
2014–151 Alabama (12–1)
2 Oregon (12–1)
3 Florida State (13–0)
4 Ohio State (12–1)
5 Baylor (11–1)
6 TCU (11–1)
20 Boise State (11–2)
2015–161 Clemson (13–0)
2 Alabama (12–1)
3 Michigan State (12–1)
4 Oklahoma (11–1)
6 Stanford (11–2)5 Iowa (12–1)
7 Ohio State (11–1)
18 Houston (12–1)
2016–171 Alabama (13–0)
2 Clemson (12–1)
4 Washington (12–1)
3 Ohio State (11–1)5 Penn State (11–2)
7 Oklahoma (10–2)
15 Western Michigan (13–0)
24 Temple (10–3)
2017–181 Clemson (12–1)
2 Oklahoma (12–1)
3 Georgia (12–1)
4 Alabama (11–1)5 Ohio State (11–2)
8 USC (11–2)
6 Wisconsin (12–1)12 UCF (12–0)
2018–191 Alabama (13–0)
2 Clemson (13–0)
4 Oklahoma (12–1)
3 Notre Dame (12–0)6 Ohio State (12–1)
9 Washington (10–3)
8 UCF (12–0)
21 Fresno State (11–2)
2019–201 LSU (13–0)
2 Ohio State (13–0)
3 Clemson (13–0)
4 Oklahoma (12–1)
6 Oregon (11–2)17 Memphis (12–1)
19 Boise State (12–1)
20 Appalachian State (12–1)
2020–211 Alabama (11–0)
2 Clemson (10–1)
3 Ohio State (6–0)
4 Notre Dame (10–1)6 Oklahoma (8–2)
25 Oregon (4–2)
5 Texas A&M (8–1)
11 Indiana (6–1)
17 USC (5–1)
8 Cincinnati (9–0)
12 Coastal Carolina (11–0)
19 Louisiana (9–1)
22 San Jose State (7–0)
2021–221 Alabama (12–1)
2 Michigan (12–1)
3 Georgia (12–1)4 Cincinnati (13–0)7 Baylor (11–2)
11 Utah (10–3)
12 Pittsburgh (11–2)
5 Notre Dame (11–1)23 Louisiana (12–1)
 
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Heavily rigged? Which team is out there that is better than Georgia or Alabama?

Nobody this year, but if you want to leave a process going forward that will continually leave out the Big 12 champ and disadvantage the league runner up go ahead.

Not to mention support a championship game from the SEC courtesy of ESPN trying to screw the B12 revenue wise going forward and ISU by moving UT & OU out of the league to the SEC have fun. I guess consolidating all of the major brands in 1-2 leagues and pay everyone else peanuts does work.
 

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Imagine the type of coordination that would need to go into even making a dent in viewership. This is a played out take.

It has so many things going for it, well you can really wrap it into one. It's college football, no other games are to be played, and college football isn't coming back for a long time. Do 95% of fans hate that it's a rematch and the SEC is getting exactly what they want, yes for sure! Is that enough to deter you from actually watching? Probably not.

It's football, we like football. Should I not watch the most talented players in college to flex my muscle and then do what instead, armchair QB on the internet or watch an extra 2 hours of Netflix out of spite?
Not necessarily, it just takes areas and conferences across the country feeling the state of CFB has ceased from being a national sport whatsoever and the sport has become concentrated in a small region of the country, or even too few a number of schools in a small region of the country.

While I think most B12 fans should realize this is the network slitting their throat in respect to future revenues especially compared to what it would have been if UT & OU remained and should have no desire to want to support ESPN's premise of piling all the national brands in 1-2 leagues that they will pay probably over 2X what they pay the B12/ACC and possibly the PAC. But if B12 fans want to support that idea go right ahead.
 

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Since people are bringing the NFL into this, can you imagine what it would look like if they used the CFP system?

The committee would meet after the Raiders-Chargers game Sunday night, then announce the playoff qualifiers as Green Bay, Kansas City, Tampa Bay and the Rams. Nope, Tennessee doesn’t make it, because they weren’t ranked high enough in September. Nope, not the Cowboys, don’t meet the eye test.

That’s what we’re dealing with in college football. Now, personally, I don’t know about extending things into a 16 or 32 game playoff like the FCS - but let‘s at least have a clearly defined criteria for qualifying for the CFP … like winning your conference.
College football is way more top heavy than the NFL so I feel like this comparison doesn't really work.

I hate the same few teams being in it every year but idk how you get better competitive balance in.college right now with a toothless NCAA. This year the 2 best teams absolutely made the championship. The semis showed that it wasn't even close. And last night confirmed it.
 
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No 2 loss teams has ever made it in.

Ohio State 2018 is the only P5 champ with one loss to miss out.

Baylor and TCU did their thing that first year.

Hold on, either Baylor or TCU were also a P5 champ with one loss in 2014, and they missed out. They may have been listed as co-champions because Bowlsby was trying to play the odds, but one-loss champions they remain. Saying 2018 Ohio State is the only one-loss P5 team not chosen is simply incorrect.