SMILEY FACE KILLERS

CyPhy

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I probably should have been more clear that I can believe in one or a few cases happening. It's just when I'm seeing numbers like 40-80 cases being linked, it's hard for me to believe that each and every one of them could happen in the way people are describing without a few of them giving more clues then there seem to be.

And there have probably been many, many close calls, and we'd never really know about these, either...as cloneluke80 points out in post #75.

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And there have probably been many, many close calls, and we'd never really know about these, either...as cloneluke80 points out in post #75.

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marothisu

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Also back in 2003 in campustown, my roommate had a creepy experience getting something slipped in his drink by some odd dudes. At the time I dismissed it as being meant for some girl, but now I am thinking he may have dodged a bullet...

I think one of my friends once was slipped one...don't know by who but it was odd it was to a guy. I mean I've been with a few girls before who were slipped roofies, DEFINITELY not fun when you are trying to make them come back from almost being completely helpless, but yeah....guys being slipped roofies is just weird.
 

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There have probably been many survivors. But again, by the nature of this "almost perfect" crime, the victims have antegrade amnesia. Antegrade amnesia is probably caused by the "mickey" that they have been slipped when they are drinking. I think the
"mickeys" are probably GHB, PCP, or LSD. Here are links to 2 recent probable failed SFK attempts.

Footprints At The River's Edge: Fargo teen hospitalized after being found in subzero temps

Missing college student found - Buffalo.YNN.com

Note that Jacob Eichelberger was found without his coat and shoes...in Fargo...in January. PCP and LSD have the side effect of making people feel unbearably warm, to the point of stripping off their clothes. As far as I am aware, GHB does not have quite the same effect on body temperature. But these SFK people have been doing this a lot, have had lots of practice, and probably share their tips and tricks with each other. My hunch is that they actually use a blend of psychotropic meds...maybe some GHB spiked with LSD or PCP. Since their victims are usually males between 150 and 180 pounds, the dose is pretty much always the same.

If you watch the video of Josh Szostak coming out of the bar, you note that he does the same thing. He's struggling to do everything he can to take his coat and shirt off, in December...in Albany, NY!

Josh Szostak - The Video | Smiley Face Killers

Yeah, that's weird. Wasn't there a guy at ISU found 2-3 years ago in the backyard of a frat with a t-shirt on during a really cold night and basically just totally ****ed up and blue?

Not saying it's linked, but I wonder if there's either something to it or just a coincidence. I mean, I've been trashed a number of times, but never did I not know where I was.

And I'll admit it, the only time I was confused was when one of my friends gave me a *lot* of a certain smokeable herb on a new year's about 5 years ago. We went to a parking lot, someone literally drove around in circles in the car for 2 minutes and I was disoriented as in I had no idea where we came into the shopping center and it kept "changing" on me. BUT 20 minutes later it was fine and I was back to reality, but I always knew where I was.
 
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not sure if this one has been posted...pretty creepy

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VdX5gQoXuQ]YouTube - smiley face killers[/ame]
 

CyPhy

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Yeah, that's weird. Wasn't there a guy at ISU found 2-3 years ago in the backyard of a frat with a t-shirt on during a really cold night and basically just totally ****ed up and blue?

Not saying it's linked, but I wonder if there's either something to it or just a coincidence. I mean, I've been trashed a number of times, but never did I not know where I was.

And I'll admit it, the only time I was confused was when one of my friends gave me a *lot* of a certain smokeable herb on a new year's about 5 years ago. We went to a parking lot, someone literally drove around in circles in the car for 2 minutes and I was disoriented as in I had no idea where we came into the shopping center and it kept "changing" on me. BUT 20 minutes later it was fine and I was back to reality, but I always knew where I was.

Exactly. And you didn't go taking off all your clothes outdoors in the middle of winter.
 

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There should be big release coming out soon from the investigators according to this video.

People of Interest? - FOXNews.com

I find it interesting that they used Abel Balanos smiley multiple times in the video.

That video is from September of 2009. Nothing was ever announced as far as I'm aware. I think Gannon and Duarte are getting absolutely zero cooperation and no encouragement from LE.
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marothisu

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Exactly. And you didn't go taking off all your clothes outdoors in the middle of winter.

Yeah, when I was drunk at ISU...I'd just walk home like a normal person. Even when I was my most drunk, I always knew exactly where I was and how to get home.


Also Abel in the Lake Laverne thing always made me suspicious. The only way I could see him going up to LL is if he tried to go in the bathroom there or something. Anyone who knows Lake Laverne knows you don't just fall in the lake. Even the one "bridge" that goes over it next to Lincoln Way on LL has fairly high guard rails on it. The lake wasn't frozen over, so did he mistake it for a sidwalk? Doubt it. Abel was going to the MU to sleep on the coaches most likely since he couldn't get in his dorm...doesn't add up but that's just me.
 

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Time will tell if there is a smiley face killer(s). The resemblances I am seeing is the following:

1. At a party or bar with friends.
2. Goes home alone on foot. Reason being tired or what not.
3. Victim acting out of character and/or disoriented [drugged?].
3. Vanishes out of thin air.
4. Usually found in waterway in the exact opposite direction of where they were supposed to be going.
5. That is why Squaw Creek should be checked immediately.

CyPhy - The bridge on Lincoln Way that Squaw Creek goes under right by Hilton; there is a walkway that goes down on the Northeast side of the bridge. Could be a possible entry point. Anyone know if that has been checked for graffiti? Also there is a bike path the runs along the west side of Squaw creek right by the bridge; then cuts into the park and crosses the squaw creek about 1/4 mile down. Might be a good place to start.

Regarding Bolanos:
1. He left party.
2. Went to his dorm and tried to access the wrong door but was denied twice.
3. Then started walking back towards the Lake; in the opposite direction of of his dorm and was found in Lake Laverne.


Seems like possibly dark arts methods and mind-controlled substances are involved. Lacina would to have been drugged at the party; on his way home or at a bar. There is no word he was at a bar so it seems unlikely. But; wasn't Chamberlain roped off on the 22nd between Stanton and Welch. What was going on there that night? Was it possible that he met a girl there around that time; she welcomed him to a bar for a drink; slipped him something; then grabbed his phone; gave it to her accomplice; he or she took the phone and "distorted evidence"; lacina then was taken in a disoriented state and dumped somewhere; possibly even days after.
 

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It would put my mind at ease knowing that those pesky kids and dog were on the SFK trail. Haven't seen a show yet where they didn't get the bad guy.

The correct term would be "meddling", as in "I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids."
 

marothisu

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Regarding Bolanos:
1. He left party.
2. Went to his dorm and tried to access the wrong door but was denied twice.
3. Then started walking back towards the Lake; in the opposite direction of of his dorm and was found in Lake Laverne.


IMO it's easy to see why Bolanos went towards the MU...because he couldn't get into his dorm, and the MU is always open. Why not go there to sleep on some couches?

Now, how he ended up in the lake is just beyond me. You'd have to actually try to fall in Lake LaVerne.
 

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Someone asked about Chamberlain being roped off that night. I believe it was roped off Saturday (the 23rd) for the mini winter X games thing, but it was clear the 22nd.

Snowboarding event to storm Ames

Smiley faces or no, the weird thing to me in these cases is that the person is missing for x number of days and then is found drown at least a week later or whatever. It's amazing a body is recovered so often after that length of time and also was not noticed prior to it. Abel was supposedly in the drink for a week. A body of water that several people walk by daily. Admittedly, I'm not an expert on what happens to the human body in a drowning situation in terms of sinking or floating.

OK, those of you that buy into this and have researched it far more than I have:

Who are the suspected people behind this and what is their reasoning for performing these acts? As far as I can tell (if it's true) there are no marks on the bodies showing that the person was bound. And there's no sign of sexual abuse or other types of abuse. What are these people gaining by doing this?

I've been waiting for two years now for someone to come out with a list of the responsible party and some sort of explaination of the reasoning.

I'll also add that it's weird that the police mark things down as certain accidental deaths when nobody witnessed the accident. Someone could have pushed any of these people into the water. The closed case of the Grinnell suicide was so bizarre, the way the police had to use dental records to ID the person, yet they could certainly tell that the duct tape used to bind the arms and legs of the person were 'self applied' and that there have been cases before that point to this being true.

Again, I have no expertise in this area, but I find it very hard to wrap my mind around how you can certainly claim it's a suicide unless you find a note from the person or something more solid.