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Hoping birthing class has improved since I first took it in 1989, and a few refreshers later. In the course of my child bearing years, they changed the position you are miraculously supposed to keep your baby in all night so they covered all options, back, front, and side.

They also never warned us that breastfeeding can be very hard to get going ( especially if they make your baby lazy by feeding him through a tube in his nose). All of the sudden some lactation consultant shows up in your room grabbing your boob and telling you that your position is all wrong. Sorry bozo, posture is not great due to a bowling ball going through a small opening in my body.

I think a little warning might make you feel like less of a failure and make you more willing to keep trying.
We actually had a retired nurse/lactation consultant come to our house probably a week after birth. Really was great knowledge. She then came back once again maybe a month or two later.
 

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And if it is, so what? Plenty of reasons women don't wish to breastfeed. It's a lot of unpaid labor and not always pleasant. However, it is possible to initiate lactation hormonally in men so please step right up and contribute to the cause.
Wife said first time there's a bite and she's done. And that was that. Onto formula, then whole milk.
 

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We actually had a retired nurse/lactation consultant come to our house probably a week after birth. Really was great knowledge. She then came back once again maybe a month or two later.

That would be such a great standard service vs shoving baby at you and squeezing Hell out of your body at all hours of night for 2 days and then nothing after that. Give you a few days to see where things are at and make adjustments.
 

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That would be such a great standard service vs shoving baby at you and squeezing Hell out of your body at all hours of night for 2 days and then nothing after that. Give you a few days to see where things are at and make adjustments.
She was doing baby weights pre and post feeding, positions, etc.
It actually saved my wife time.
 

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She was doing baby weights pre and post feeding, positions, etc.
It actually saved my wife time.

Yeah I really love that idea for a home visit several days out. That could be so helpful. Other countries actually do their postpartum visits at the mother's home. We of course, do not. But lactation consultants could be easier than OBs and NPs.
 

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Yeah I really love that idea for a home visit several days out. That could be so helpful. Other countries actually do their postpartum visits at the mother's home. We of course, do not. But lactation consultants could be easier than OBs and NPs.
Yep. Really worth the couple hundred bucks it was. Lady obviously was passionate about it.
 

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We actually had a retired nurse/lactation consultant come to our house probably a week after birth. Really was great knowledge. She then came back once again maybe a month or two later.
I would have been much happier with a woman lactation consultant. The first one I had in the hospital was a man. Was lucky other kids weren’t as difficult to nurse. Can’t imagine the panic I would be in if I needed formula and couldn’t get it. My last boy couldn’t get enough and we had to supplement, that’s also an awful feeling of failure that would be compounded if you couldn’t find the right formula.

I have been waiting for @BCClone to bring up women nursing their husbands while pregnant. That’s apparently a thing and knowing him, he probably tried.
 

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I would have been much happier with a woman lactation consultant. The first one I had in the hospital was a man. Was lucky other kids weren’t as difficult to nurse. Can’t imagine the panic I would be in if I needed formula and couldn’t get it. My last boy couldn’t get enough and we had to supplement, that’s also an awful feeling of failure that would be compounded if you couldn’t find the right formula.

I have been waiting for @BCClone to bring up women nursing their husbands while pregnant. That’s apparently a thing and knowing him, he probably tried.
No that is gross. Many lines I do not cross
 
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Hoping birthing class has improved since I first took it in 1989, and a few refreshers later. In the course of my child bearing years, they changed the position you are miraculously supposed to keep your baby in all night so they covered all options, back, front, and side.

They also never warned us that breastfeeding can be very hard to get going ( especially if they make your baby lazy by feeding him through a tube in his nose). All of the sudden some lactation consultant shows up in your room grabbing your boob and telling you that your position is all wrong. Sorry bozo, posture is not great due to a bowling ball going through a small opening in my body.

I think a little warning might make you feel like less of a failure and make you more willing to keep trying.
As bad as you may think I am. The birthing class director did call me out as a first in all the years (and she was old) of her teaching the class. I was the first male to ever show up to the initial class without the pregnant wife. My wife was unable to attend, but I went anyhow. Wouldn’t have been as embarrassing had she not walked back and railed on it as she stood by me.
 

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95% of mothers are capable of breastfeeding. If you have the means to be at home or work in a professional environment, then not breastfeeding is a choice.

I am incredibly, incredibly pro-breastfeeding, but this is a very sexist response. I knew all of the laws and how to be my own advocate, but while the two different companies I worked at supported me pumping on paper, the culture and pressure of certain peers (and, at my previous employer, my boss) made it clear it was considered a waste of their time for me to be gone 20 min at a time a few times a day.

I don't particularly care what people think of me, so I just did it anyway, but it's really easy to get shamed out of something by being made to feel like you're a bad employee or coworker.
 
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Yeah I really love that idea for a home visit several days out. That could be so helpful. Other countries actually do their postpartum visits at the mother's home. We of course, do not. But lactation consultants could be easier than OBs and NPs.

I made three trips to the lactation consultant. Mind you, this was a few days after I delivered and then another week later and then another week later. I still couldn't drive because ... you know ... major surgery. My husband was back to work, but I was fortunate my mother came down to help me (even though she hates driving in the big city of Des Moines). An in-home consultation would have been so much easier. And more comfortable. I'm lucky insurance covered these visits, but I also know not everyone has those resources.

As for the dude mansplaining breastfeeding, you can GFY.
 

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I am incredibly, incredibly pro-breastfeeding, but this is a very sexist response. I knew all of the laws and how to be my own advocate advocate, but while the two different companies I worked at supported me pumping on paper, the culture and pressure of certain peers (and, at my previous employer, my boss) made it clear it was considered a waste of their time for me to be gone 20 min at a time a few times a day.

I don't particularly care what people think of me, so I just did it anyway, but it's really easy to get shamed out of something by being made to feel like you're a bad employee or coworker.
Honest question, is 20 minutes the normal amount of time? I am clueless. My wife was talking to me how she had a co-worker who took 45 minutes 3X a day to pump. With her job it meant about a 1/3 of the work time (or a little more) that she spent doing that. Since their work has to be done within a specific window, my wife mentioned that others had to move their schedules around when the co-worker decided to pump.
 

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I think it’s time we hook @cycloneML up to a pump or kid so his nipples can get raw, cracked and bleed. Then of course there is the pain from being full, don’t forget leaky nipples too.

Not to mention the mental side on worrying if you are providing enough, are they latched well, finding a place to feed or pump every couple of hours, the pain.

Let’s just go back to driving manual transmission cars while we are at it. That’s really the only way to drive.
 

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Honest question, is 20 minutes the normal amount of time? I am clueless. My wife was talking to me how she had a co-worker who took 45 minutes 3X a day to pump. With her job it meant about a 1/3 of the work time (or a little more) that she spent doing that. Since their work has to be done within a specific window, my wife mentioned that others had to move their schedules around when the co-worker decided to pump.

It probably depends on the kind of pump she had and her supply.
 

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I think it’s time we hook @cycloneML up to a pump or kid so his nipples can get raw, cracked and bleed. Then of course there is the pain from being full, don’t forget leaky nipples too.

Not to mention the mental side on worrying if you are providing enough, are they latched well, finding a place to feed or pump every couple of hours, the pain.

Let’s just go back to driving manual transmission cars while we are at it. That’s really the only way to drive.
I agree with your last 2 sentences.
 

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