Seed Corn

[00clone]

First time trying to buys some seed corn, man this stuff is crazy complicated.

Pretty sure you're supposed to be harvesting now, not planting.

 

[BCClone]

Know your ground first. Planting the "hot" hybrid may not work on your ground. Something that is great for flat, great ground usually doesn't work on sandy, rolling ground. Know the soil types, the drainage, things like that and then match the seed to it.

 

[kingcy]

In places ....

That doesn't make good coffee shop talk.

 

[kingcy]

Pretty sure you're supposed to be harvesting now, not planting.

Seed companies want you to buy your seed for the next year before your harvest this years crop. Which is stupid because my seed order now is complete different than it was 2 months ago based on harvest info.

 

[Tre4ISU]

P1197

If you like mediocre yield to moisture ratios, this is the corn for you.

 

[ISUME]

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[wonkadog]

100-115 day Maturity range depending on where you live in Iowa. 100-106 up north. 106-110 in the middle 110-115 in Southern third. This is just a generalization.

Secondly get a BT traited corn and a Roundup Ready Liberty Link traited corn if you are putting it on bean stubble and or old pasture ground.(Also nicknamed double pro) This protects you against corn borrer and allows you to spray Round up and liberty chemicals on them with no harm to your corn.

Go with a Smart Stack or Triple Stack for Corn on corn scenarios. (These have rootworm traits in them that kill rootworms)

Its really not too difficult just make sure whoever you get it from doesn't hose you on selling you traits you don't need. Also all brands are generally good. My post is just a generalization id say 75% of what people do.

Next know your land- If your farming in the goat hills of SW IA with a low CSR rating go with more of a workhorse hybrid - your not going to need the racey high yielding profile on your ground but it will always be standing and will adapt well to the variety of conditions. If your farming in the flat ground with high CSR go with a racehorse as you can really take advantage of a higher yielding hybrid.

This is a quick run down, anyone that works at the local Co-op or seed dealer should set you in the right path - just remember do not pay for traits you do not need!

Huh??

 

[cycloneML]

We got 187 bu/acre with Dekalb in Kansas which is once in a lifetime yield for this part of the world.

 

[VTXCyRyD]

talking about yields without stating your inputs is like measuring your D*ck with a scaleless ruler. Means nothing

I measure at 54.75 notches or 304 dots depending on the ruler

 

[Dandy]

100-115 day Maturity range depending on where you live in Iowa. 100-106 up north. 106-110 in the middle 110-115 in Southern third. This is just a generalization.

Secondly get a BT traited corn and a Roundup Ready Liberty Link traited corn if you are putting it on bean stubble and or old pasture ground.(Also nicknamed double pro) This protects you against corn borrer and allows you to spray Round up and liberty chemicals on them with no harm to your corn.

Go with a Smart Stack or Triple Stack for Corn on corn scenarios. (These have rootworm traits in them that kill rootworms)

Its really not too difficult just make sure whoever you get it from doesn't hose you on selling you traits you don't need. Also all brands are generally good. My post is just a generalization id say 75% of what people do.

Next know your land- If your farming in the goat hills of SW IA with a low CSR rating go with more of a workhorse hybrid - your not going to need the racey high yielding profile on your ground but it will always be standing and will adapt well to the variety of conditions. If your farming in the flat ground with high CSR go with a racehorse as you can really take advantage of a higher yielding hybrid.

This is a quick run down, anyone that works at the local Co-op or seed dealer should set you in the right path - just remember do not pay for traits you do not need!

It's almost like you do this for a living or something...

 

[00clone]

I measure at 54.75 notches or 304 dots depending on the ruler

Sorry...the response we were looking for here was "your mom was happy with my inputs last night".

:wink:

 

[CynadoAlley]

P1197

P1151, P1191, P0937, P0589, and P0506 were our big winners this year. 1197, 589, and 937 won each of our plots and we were sure to have them planted in varied conditions.

Each of these are going to be big for us going forward (with maybe the exception of 937 as it has poor drought tolerance), but it obviously depends on the acre. And I'm also clearly biased.

 

[Tre4ISU]

It's almost like you do this for a living or something...

I hope not. Double Pros are not Liberty tolerant which could be a huge mistake.

 

[Tre4ISU]

P1151, P1191, P0937, P0589, and P0506 were our big winners this year. 1197, 589, and 937 won each of our plots and we were sure to have them planted in varied conditions.

Each of these are going to be big for us going forward (with maybe the exception of 937 as it has poor drought tolerance), but it obviously depends on the acre. And I'm also clearly biased.

Who would you say is your biggest competition in terms of actual yield, not just sales?

 

[CynadoAlley]

Who would you say is your biggest competition in terms of actual yield, not just sales?

Here in NWIA, on a consistent basis I'd have to go with DeKalb. Pretty much everything and everyone is good this year, but they'd be our most consistent competition IMO.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Here in NWIA, on a consistent basis I'd have to go with DeKalb. Pretty much everything and everyone is good this year, but they'd be our most consistent competition IMO.

That's how it is up here but I just wondered how much it changed when you got into those later maturities.

 

[isu22andy]

I hope not. Double Pros are not Liberty tolerant which could be a huge mistake.

He is correct - I was wrong on that account. Not familiar with Monsanto traits as well as I should be. I base alot of my knowledge from Pioneer. Pioneers closest version of a double pro Acremax does have LL https://www.pioneer.com/home/site/us/products/corn/seed-traits-technologies/oam-products/

 

[Turn2]

Seed companies want you to buy your seed for the next year before your harvest this years crop. Which is stupid because my seed order now is complete different than it was 2 months ago based on harvest info.

Not to mention they'll cancel your good numbers due to "poor germination".

 

[kingcy]

If you like mediocre yield to moisture ratios, this is the corn for you.

What issues did you have with 1197? As I sit here working on my seed orders.

 

[CynadoAlley]

Seed companies want you to buy your seed for the next year before your harvest this years crop. Which is stupid because my seed order now is complete different than it was 2 months ago based on harvest info.

This is frustrating for me as a salesman because the last thing I want to do is bother my customers during their busiest and most important time of year. But.. each and every company places discount deadlines well ahead of where they used to be, so it is what it is I guess. I've just been making sure that the customer understands they can change the variety whenever they wish, and that the order is more of a quantity thing and less of a variety thing. And yes, obviously quantities can change as a result of harvest data as well.