Restaurant tipping

[KennyPratt42]

Would you be more likely to go to a restaurant that added a little over 20% to all of their item prices when compared to comparable restaurants and then did not give you an option to tip?

You could leave additional cash or could request to leave an additional tip on a credit card receipt, but the default would be that there is no option for leaving a tip and no expectation to do so.

So as a couple of examples:
A normally $9.99 menu item would be changed to $12.25
A normally $26 menu item would be changed to $32
A total of $120 in items ordered would change to around $146.50

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

Would you be more likely to go to a restaurant that added a little over 20% to all of their item prices when compared to comparable restaurants and then did not give you an option to tip?

You could leave additional cash or could request to leave an additional tip on a credit card receipt, but the default would be that there is no option for leaving a tip and no expectation to do so.

So as a couple of examples:
A normally $9.99 menu item would be changed to $12.25
A normally $26 menu item would be changed to $32
A total of $120 in items ordered would change to around $146.50

Is that 20% going directly to the server? I could probably get behind that but if it goes to the restaurant then no.

 

[KennyPratt42]

Is that 20% going directly to the server? I could probably get behind that but if it goes to the restaurant then no.

The two forms it would likely take, is either the restaurant is paying much higher hourly wages than they do now (to get people to work there vs a standard tipping restaurant) or a set percentage of the amount ordered on tables they serve go to them (22% as an example).

 

[pourcyne]

If you've been to France, you've already experienced this. The tip (and the tax) is part of the listed price. What's more, eating and drinking establishments must post their prices outside so that people know what things will cost.

 

[Cyclones_R_GR8]

The two forms it would likely take, is either the restaurant is paying much higher hourly wages than they do now (to get people to work there vs a standard tipping restaurant) or a set percentage of the amount ordered on tables they serve go to them (22% as an example).

Ask a waiter/waitress if they would prefer $20/hr or $5/hr + tips. You might be surprised

 

[KennyPratt42]

Ask a waiter/waitress if they would prefer $20/hr or $5/hr + tips. You might be surprised

They would prefer $5 + tips or at least every one I’ve ever talked to. The higher hourly would need to be north of $20/hr or include things like benefits to attract people likely.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Ask a waiter/waitress if they would prefer $20/hr or $5/hr + tips. You might be surprised

John Oliver I think did an episode on tipping and yeah I believe most said they would still take the tipping scenario.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

There appears to be a chance that tips will be tax free. This would affect your poll.

If u ask a waiter in a metropolitan area, which i have over the years, they have always wanted smaller wage and keep their own tips. They share their tips with bus help, generally on a predetermined formula.

If u ask a Starbucks employee, my gut would be they would take a higher wage.

Per a restaurant (pizza) owner in Austin, Tx last month, he is paying dishwashers and bus help $20/hr. In West Texas and the Rio Gande Valley, the hourly wages are in the $12/hrs. range.

 

[Cyched]

Is that 20% going directly to the server? I could probably get behind that but if it goes to the restaurant then no.

5 years ago I'd agree, but I have enough tipping fatigue now I don't really give a ****. If I'm marking up my bill 20% anyway, just be direct.

 

[ISUKyro]

Anytime you try and control what I tip, I'm out.
Let me tip and you do even a half decent job and you are getting a solid tip.

 

[CyCrazy]

Anytime you try and control what I tip, I'm out.
Let me tip and you do even a half decent job and you are getting a solid tip.

Same, I usually tip but being a defined % naw.

 

[Cychl82]

Is that 20% going directly to the server? I could probably get behind that but if it goes to the restaurant then no.

Biggest question mark constantly

 

[cytor]

I really hate paying for something BEFORE I'm served and the payment pad is prompting for a tip.

 

[CyCoug]

A few thoughts. I’ve been in Costa Rica the last 8 days. Every place I’ve been to accepts cards and there has been no tip prompt except one place called the puddlefish brewery, which in name and menu clearly caters towards Americans. One other place that was a bit more upscale, and run by an American, had a note that a 10% service fee would be added to all orders.

The other places that see a lot of Americans have a tip jar out for cash tips. The small family-owned “sodas” do not because many more locals eat there.

I am personally grateful that the POS systems (point of sale, not the other meaning), do not constantly prompt for tips. I would be much happier to just pay more with a stated price in the US.

The reason many servers in the U.S. would prefer the low minimum wage + tips is because the system is so entrenched and encouraged by both business owners and card processing companies (they get a percent of the tip payment as well).

But in my opinion it is a horrible system, because the cost of a decent wage is pushed from employer to employee and customer in a less reliable and transparent manner. With the accompanying risk the employee gets stiffed, rather than the employer, who could eliminate the risk with higher set prices.

Lastly, I have been served just a graciously here by servers not expecting tips, as those in the U.S. getting tips. So I don’t buy into the sentiment that it encourages better service.

 

[Clonehomer]

They would prefer $5 + tips or at least every one I’ve ever talked to. The higher hourly would need to be north of $20/hr or include things like benefits to attract people likely.

I’m sure they would certainly go for the tips. But is that better for the consumer though? With restaurant prices what they are today, 20% ends up a crazy high hourly rate when you figure in several tables per hour. Restaurant prices have gone up probably 30% over the past couple years. So should the tip also have increased by that much?

 

[casey1973]

Off track a little but I just bought a dozen cookies at crumbl cookie. They boxed them up and on the screen it suggested different % of tips. Uh, no for me.

 

[SCNCY]

I hate tipping culture. So I’d prefer if prices included everything.

I do tip 20% at restaurants as well as tipping at fast food places if I’m promoted.

 

[demoncore1031]

Anytime you try and control what I tip, I'm out.
Let me tip and you do even a half decent job and you are getting a solid tip.

Same. I tip really well if the service is good, but I won't go to a restaurant that adds a tip into my bill.

 

[madguy30]

Delta Diner in the north woods of WI does a 20% in, no tipping, let's them pay their staff better wages.

Nice little spot and I've never noticed a difference.

I tend to tip well from my own experiences working in restaurants so it's fine by me although I can see it maybe being different in a bigger place.

 

[1SEIACLONE]

I don't mind tipping if they actually perform a service, but when they want you to tip to check them out, give you your food at the counter, then where does it end? It's like self check out at the grocery store or Wally World, how about you scan and bag it, and I pay you for the crap I bought. What is next, you going to leave boxes around the store for me to stock the shell?