Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC

[BallSoHard4Cy]

Off season talks and rumors is what people like. This post proves it. You guys are being played. Good night.

I can assure you that I like none of this

 

[Crookedhatkid]

Here's a hypothetical for everyone on nuclear meltdown mode. This is strictly in regards to Oklahoma because Texas is insignificant and have always been massive underachievers.

Let's say Cambpbell has 10 years left, the first 5 we continue like we have with Oklahoma and Texas, 8-10 win seasons, keep making good bowl games, but he just can't get over the Oklahoma hump. He either loses to them in the championship game again, or slips up against some other team which prevents us from even getting there. No Big 12 championships or playoffs.

The last 5 Oklahoma is gone, the Big 12 stays together with the remaining 8 and adds 2 other teams. Iowa St becomes the premier team in the conference under Campbell, wins at least a couple Big 12 titles and gets invited to the 12 team playoff at least once, multiple NFL picks, sold out games every Saturday.

What the hell is the difference??? Because now we cant play Oklahoma once or twice anymore? We weren't even competitive with them for like 30 years until Kyle Kempt and Matt Cambpell came along. Is it really all about the TV revenue driving all this? Who's to say Campbell won't stay or they find some other way to pony up his salary.

Another thing with recruiting, it's all relative, you guys act like our recruiting would take a hit, but so would every other team in the conference. There's still the same amount of players out there, we have added 2 new expansion teams to college football. Yeah, the overall talent of the conference will go down but it's relative. What's the worst case if that happens? We can beat Big 12 teams but can't compete with ghr Alabama and Clemsons? How is that any different than right now.

I am guessing the difference is like 60 million dollars a year. Maybe that isn’t a big deal to you.

 

[Beyerball]

The argument of “the big ten has no reason to add teams“ etc isn’t happening if SEC goes to 16.. It’s about Inventory and. $$...The more inventory and teams the more $$.

If ISU is say added to the big ten, ISU will not be receiving a full share of revenue for quite some time. Nebraska was tiered and ply started getting its full share heck last year.

So the argument that ISU would drive down per team revenue is a weak one honestly, especially given the future of media revenue in college sports will have more to do with eyeballs and size of fan base more so than “TV Markets”..

This idea that the Big ten might not be this forward thinking is non sense...

Now the big ten certainly will look to the ACC first IMO to see if they can poach Clemson/Virginia..Let’s say they do. Big ten would still likely add 2 more teams..Are there gonna be 2 other teams outside KU and ISU who would at least not drive down revenue? I’m not even convinced that KU b-ball alone is a big enough revenue driver to add them.

But Let’s say big ten adds Clemson and Virg and just stops there. Pac 12 adds Baylor, TCU, Tech and Okie state.

ACC:
VT
UNC
nc state
Miami
Syracuse
UNC
Duke
KU
ISU
Wake
GT
Pitt
BC
Louis
FSU
KSU

That is a P4 conf and I’d argue not the worst P4 conf either. And the absolute best b-ball conf by a mile.. Would this new ACC make money like the current big 12 per team? Prob not but it’s most def a player in the Power conf game and that’s all that matters moving forward.

I don’t see a logical scenario where the big ten, and PAC for that matter, sit back and say “meh we are good where we are.” no way.

 

[nhclone]

Nebraska was an AAU outlier when they joined, I believe, FWIW.

There is 0.0 chance the Big Ten adds ISU. None. There’s not another dollar of revenue by making the move. It would be better off standing pat than adding ISU, unfortunately.

Nebraska was AAU when they joined but got dropped soon after.

 

[Hoggins]

Wintersteen and Pollard are in a tricky spot. They need to partner with KU for a pitch to the Big 10 while simultaneously talking with Tech, OSU, and KSU about a PAC 16 pitch.

Yep, we ******.

 

[cydsho]

I had not seen this posted yet but seems appropriate.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Wintersteen and Pollard are in a tricky spot. They need to partner with KU for a pitch to the Big 10 while simultaneously talking with Tech, OSU, and KSU about a PAC 16 pitch.

Yep, we ******.

The key is to be KUs #2 because that gets you a ticket to wherever KU ends up, which will be one of those two options. So don’t really need to work on anything else.

 

[2speedy1]

Of course, the big 10 still has its other option: staying where theyre at.

I think I said that, ("If the Big 12 implodes, and the B1G decides to add")

 

[Hoggins]

The key is to be KUs #2 because that gets you a ticket to wherever KU ends up, which will be one of those two options. So don’t really need to work on anything else.

That’s a good point. Tech, OSU, KU, and ISU works in a Pac 16 too

 

[Gunnerclone]

That’s a good point. Tech, OSU, KU, and ISU works in a Pac 16 too

KU being so terrible at football is a big wild card. They might look around and say “why do we care, this doesn’t mean **** for basketball” and just do nothing and let things shake out and just not work with anyone.

They are one of like 5 schools where their basketball can overcome the obstacles that schools like ISU, KU, TTU, OSU can’t overcome when it comes to viability in their AD, recruiting, NIL concerns, etc.

 

[HouClone]

Well, my day was going well until I fired up CBS Sports at lunch.

 

[2speedy1]

Nebraska was an AAU outlier when they joined, I believe, FWIW.

There is 0.0 chance the Big Ten adds ISU. None. There’s not another dollar of revenue by making the move. It would be better off standing pat than adding ISU, unfortunately.

Nebraska was an AAU member when the joined, they lost it after being accepted.

 

[FeedBreece]

KU being so terrible at football is a big wild card. They might look around and say “why do we care, this doesn’t mean **** for basketball” and just do nothing and let things shake out and just not work with anyone.

Exactly. KU football is literally dead weight. And football revenue>>>>> basketball revenue. Plus KU’s basketball program will be fine no matter where they go.

 

[Jammin’]

So many scenarios. Things could get interesting if TX doesn’t have the votes and OK does. Time will tell and the potential money is massive, but you got to remember TX won’t be perceived as being told what to do.

 

[BallSoHard4Cy]

The key is to be KUs #2 because that gets you a ticket to wherever KU ends up, which will be one of those two options. So don’t really need to work on anything else.

Think it makes sense for both parties to work together in this. Tech and Okie State will need to work together as well to try and join the PAC-12. Hopefully we are not on the outside looking in like KSU, Baylor, TCU, and WVU appear to be

 

[deadeyededric]

KU being so terrible at football is a big wild card. They might look around and say “why do we care, this doesn’t mean **** for basketball” and just do nothing and let things shake out and just not work with anyone.

They are one of like 5 schools where their basketball can overcome the obstacles that schools like ISU, KU, TTU, OSU can’t overcome when it comes to viability in their AD, recruiting, NIL concerns, etc.

KU fans care about football more than you think. They don't like being this bad and they want to continue to be in a major conference.

 

[FeedBreece]

So many scenarios. Things could get interesting if TX doesn’t have the votes and OK does. Time will tell and the potential money is massive, but you got to remember TX won’t be perceived as being told what to do.

How about Texas leaves, goes independent, whatever, and Oklahoma stays?

I’ll be very happy with that. Get a few more schools to join in and then the conference still has some merit. Like Jared said on the podcast, I’m tired of Texas’s BS.

 

[Gunnerclone]

KU fans care about football more than you think. They don't like being this bad and they want to continue to be in a major conference.

They should have cared more with their check books.

 

[2speedy1]

The Big Ten has attempted multiple times to add Notre Dame as a full time member and ND is not an AAU member.

Not sure of any official invites or when or what those circumstances may have been, or what the byelaws may have included regarding such additions at that time. Notre Dame is a special circumstance in many respects though.

 

[FeedBreece]

KU fans care about football more than you think. They don't like being this bad and they want to continue to be in a major conference.

Maybe they should actually show up to their games. Build a stadium that doesn’t look like a track field.