We can take lots of shots at Texas and rightfully so, but the LHN saved this conference from collapsing 10-years ago and allowed us to build some fine facilities in the meantime.
Report: OU & Texas reach out to join SEC
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It saved us, but it also based on the premise that made the whole big XII unstable and unable to survive. It set us on the path to breaking up but saved us for a short term.
And some people don’t believe these morons have agendas.. Not a single school in the country has as many All-Americans on this list as Iowa State does, yet this pin-head throws mentions Texas.
It was a deal with the devil but the right choice the 10 year of money allowed for ISU to build a brand and make the facility improvements to be attractive adds for a conference. If LHN didn't happen and the conference broke apart then ISU would be in the MWC or AAC now with no Campbell or realistic hope of having a major CFB program to support.
Agree wholly. Pointing out that the tier 3 deal (which was the basis for the LHN) was texas still pushing its unequal distribution. Unequal distribution does not work in a conference. It is what make the Big XII unstable. Now remember which four teams demanded unequal distribution and which teams have left.
Stupid tweet. If they added Iowa State the SEC would have an even larger share. It proves nothing and only shows their bias. Also, if they left out TX and OK then the SEC would have even less AA's. WOW!! Really? if you add more you get more? And if you don't add anymore you don't get anymore?
In the B12, TX and OK were big fish in a small pond that allowed OK to feed on the smaller fish (not TX, because they suck) and get bigger. In the SEC, TX and OK will be big fish in a slightly larger pond full of big fish. They will not have the advantages of before.
Not to get long winded, but what I am attempting to say, is that, the SEC will probably only get a marginally larger number of AA's with the addition of TX and OK. It is not as simple as add or subtract. There are much larger statistical and social complexities involved. Dennis Dodd should be ashamed of putting such stupid information out there.
Considering the steady flow of dumb takes and consistently drawing terrible conclusions from vague information, I'm going to go out on a limb and say he will not be ashamed of putting out dumb information.
So a 10-team league in the big 12 has the most first teamers. So, surely we should expect to see lots of articles on how the Big 12 this year has the highest concentration of talent in the country, right?
OTAs still need CFB content to help fill up fall Saturday afternoons and evenings. CBS and NBC would obviously pay more with UT and OU but they both need content, especially CBS after losing the SEC GOTW. That need for both CBS and NBC has been exponentially increased as both need additional content for their respective streaming platforms, Paramount+ and Peacock.
I had previously suggested that if the B12 did an all in deal with Amazon, the B12 would want a GOTW sub licensed to an OTA network to max viewers for that weekly marquee game. The issue with Amazon sub licensing to CBS or NBC would be the marketing of Prime Video, who is a direct competitor of the CBS Paramount and NBC Peacock streaming platforms.
Now if Amazon makes it financially worthwhile for the B12 to have all inventory on Prime only, I think the B12 would go for that but ideally the B12 will want at least one GOTW on OTA (CBS or NBC) with the rest on the partner’s streaming platform (Paramount+ or Peacock).
Why would Amazon need a partnership with an OTA Network?
Did a quick Google and 80% of Americans have access to at least one streaming service like Amazon & Netflix and over 90% of Americans in 20-35 age group use a streaming service vs. cable/dish.
Amazon or Netflix do not need an OTA linear network. They can easily make a portion of their platform free to access and could show a game-of-week on that segment of platform along with other content. Peacock's App provides free content and also subscription content.
IMO the days of a large amount of open access sport inventory on streaming, cable or dish multi-channel platform are coming to an end. Hello subscriptions if you want to see all your team's games or all your team's conference games.
All else being equal I’d rather have our GOTW on an OTA channel, which has the broadest distribution and gets more casual fan eyes on our games. But I also don’t have a problem with logging into Prime Video for it if Amazon is going to pay more. There is probably some value (again all else equal) in breaking media rights across multiple broadcasters. I’m guessing the schools will be wary of giving too much power to any one partner.
I don't log into Amazon Prime using Roku. Just select the App like I do for Fubo, YouTube, etc.
Good point about access to Amazon‘s “free” content and how projected viewers for that would compare to CBS or NBC for a B12 GOTW.
The big question is if a conference can stay nationally relevant going to only streaming. There's a huge ratings difference between OTA and cable channels. Streaming is likely to be even worse. I'll happily stream Iowa State football or basketball games but it's pretty rare for me to watch any other CFB games outside of those on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, or ESPN. People's viewing habits are certainly changing but going to streaming only certainly comes with some risk of how much a national audience will tune in.
With OTA, the game is just on and you flip past it and decide to stop and watch it, almost by accident.
With streaming, you have to know when and where it is on, and go find it on purpose.
The streamers are probably more valuable eyeballs, but there is still a huge difference in volume of viewers.
Streaming makes sense for games between average (or worse) teams with above-average avid fan bases. Games that don’t attract a lot of casual viewers anyway, but that the fans will seek out and watch (and pay to watch). So that’s another good reason why the top game or two in the league each week might be better suited to go on TV. Let Iowa State at Oklahoma State when both teams are ranked get played on CBS, and something like 3-6 West Virginia at 4-5 Texas Tech could be on Prime Video.
Skeptical Clark sees both of those stats and needs to see some evidence. The wording "has access to" in particular makes me think someone is playing some games with numbers.
You're forgetting the damages which they potentially opened themselves up to with the way things went down.
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Streaming will alter OTA. For example the hidden band may be used. Quadrant games may be that browsing reminder to turn on your stream. The future is going to change our viewing pleasure as we know it.
Yeah that's kind of weird. I'm sure there are plenty of gma's and gpa's who have a TV equipped to stream Netflix but who never do. And I'd argue that 90% figure for those 20-35 who prefer streaming to cable/dish is probably way low.
