Better let Bo Ryan and John Thompson III know that, or else they won't get any more players like Devin Harris, Alando Tucker, Hibbert, and Green.
The other 7 guys that left didn't leave for the NBA. There has to be a reason other than just that.
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Better let Bo Ryan and John Thompson III know that, or else they won't get any more players like Devin Harris, Alando Tucker, Hibbert, and Green.
The other 7 guys that left didn't leave for the NBA. There has to be a reason other than just that.
This is the point I'm having the hardest time swallowing. If he was unhappy with the relationship since being in Vegas, if it didn't improve over the course of the season, and if he made up his mind weeks ago, why sign the scholly?
Why not deal with it head-on?
I would be willing to be that is at least 80% of the reason for all of our defections.
I find it hard to believe he went to Mac and said he didn't like their relationship - what guy does that?! If WJ did do this and Mac did nothing than shame on Mac but Mac is an adult who's job is on the line and WJ is someone he needs - I just find WJ statement that he went to Mac to tell him he didn't like their relationship hard to believe.
In most of the defections we know that the relationship with the coaching staff played a role of some kind. Do you really think Cory Johnson thinks he's going to play in the NBA? Be real.
Posters on this board who actually know the players have all said that the relationship with the coach isn't the best.
It could be a miscommunication, maybe they spoke about it, Mac thought it was water under the bridge, WJ didn't think enough was done. If a player has a problem with a coach I don't think it is to far fetched that he would go to him and talk about it.
Your taking statements by a Rag reporter to validate someones credibility???????
I've let it drop, but that don't prove nothing.......notta......zilcho.:no:
Guess he would be in the other 20% then huh? You're right though, let's fire Mac now.
I didn't read where he said to fire Greg.
Everyone is so quick to blame one person. I think the issues here lie somewhere in the middle. The staff is certainly not void of blame for these defections.
Everyone is so quick to blame one person. I think the issues here lie somewhere in the middle. The staff is certainly not void of blame for these defections.
Sorry, you are right. He didn't say it. Thanks for sticking up for him, I am sure he appreciates it.
You're right, I didn't say it, and I've said REPEATEDLY that he should get at least four or five years. But thanks for totally putting words in my mouth.
I'm not blaming the coaching staff for this at all. But clearly there is a rift between the staff and players because there are all these transfers. ISU at this point clearly isn't that fun of a place to play. People who are a lot closer to the program than you or I am have said there is a relationship problem with the staff.
All I know is, in my opinion, I think it takes upperclassmen to be highly succesful in the McDermott system at this level. This year we have one senior on the roster. Next year we will have one, who was a JUCO transfer. This is a serious problem. I don't care about Wesley. He is merely the symptom of a greater problem that needs to get figured out if the program is ever going to get out of the basement of the Big 12.
I'm not blaming the coaching staff for this at all. But clearly there is a rift between the staff and players because there are all these transfers. ISU at this point clearly isn't that fun of a place to play. People who are a lot closer to the program than you or I am have said there is a relationship problem with the staff.
All I know is, in my opinion, I think it takes upperclassmen to be highly succesful in the McDermott system at this level. This year we have one senior on the roster. Next year we will have one, who was a JUCO transfer. This is a serious problem. I don't care about Wesley. He is merely the symptom of a greater problem that needs to get figured out if the program is ever going to get out of the basement of the Big 12.
I don't know Mac but he grew up in this state on a farm and seems to be a decent guy - hard nosed - but decent with some common sense. I can't see Mac verbally abusing players or assualting them so what part of the relationship wasn't good? I am afraid this is something we will never really know how it all went down.
Anyone else think this "Mac and I didn't have a good relationship" spin is nothing but a smoke screen? I'm sure the Register would have wanted examples (at least one), the fact that none is provided tells me that is all a cover up.
Mac is in a no-win situation. If he throws Wesley under the bus at the presser (gives his side and it reflects negatively on Wes), then what does that gain him / ISU?
If he takes the high-road (which he always does), we all think Wes had legitimate claims and isn't just an NBA-chasing loser kid.
Wes will never play at ISU again, that is for sure, but this thing is not over. They DO NOT have to let him out of that scholarship.
Mac is in a no-win situation. If he throws Wesley under the bus at the presser (gives his side and it reflects negatively on Wes), then what does that gain him / ISU?
If he takes the high-road (which he always does), we all think Wes had legitimate claims and isn't just an NBA-chasing loser kid.
Wes will never play at ISU again, that is for sure, but this thing is not over. They DO NOT have to let him out of that scholarship.
Growing up in Iowa on a farm makes you a decent guy with common sense that isn't prone to verbal abuse?
Yeah, real smart move for future recruiting purposes! All of these defections will already be used against us in recruiting and if we try to make it tough on WJ as he leaves then that will also be used. What can I say...STUPID IDEA!!
I find it hard to take WJ side on this. Mac has built a reputation in this state over many years and you can't just chuck all that because of a few kids that decided for one reason or another they didn't want to be at ISU. Many of the transfers early on was due to not wanting to play a more structured game, then while trying to replace all those players you take who you can get and some of those just don't work out - then there are the ones like CJ who want to play more and the ones like Vette??! I think we need to keep the faith with Mac.
Mac has no history of any type of abusing players and he has been coaching in this state for many years. If he was like that we would have heard about it by now.
I don't really get the situation still. The article just says that he was unhappy with the relationship. If it was the relationship that he was unhappy with then why wouldn't you give any examples of why. Just doesn't make any sense. Something still seems pretty fishy about this whole thing.
Why should we make it easy for him? Its obvoius he is donig what is good for Wesley so why shouldn't we do what's good for ISU?
As far as the recruiting goes, if a potential recruit factors in ease of leaving ISU for another school as part of his process we dont need that recruit in our program.
I hope he earns his degree from Kentu$ky because he won't be on an NBA roster.
