Regents to Mull Program Cuts to Meet Budget
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Always enjoy it when tuition goes up and then budget cuts at the same time. Glad to see my money is spent in the best way...
Tuition goes up at a lower rate than state funding goes down = budget cuts necessary
Well maybe if the universities were fiscally responsible in there spending it wouldnt happen. The amount of money they waste is sickening.
On what? Where is this massive waste? Specifics, not generalities.
On a separate yet related note, also take note that the state ran a pretty nice surplus last year. But keep on cuttin'.
I keep hearing this, and I know there are instances where money is wasted, but where do you see the money being wasted?
Each department has their own full staff. Accounting, finance, MIS, etc. all have their own secretaries, etc.
Why are marketing and advertising in separate colleges with completely separate faculty? Same thing with a different label.
CoB specifically: Why did the cafe need to be redone and pretty close to nothing changed?
Why previously were buildings being cleaned every single night? They look pretty much exactly the same now even though they're being cleaned 2-3 times per week.
Why are marketing and advertising in separate colleges with completely separate faculty? Same thing with a different label.
CoB specifically: Why did the cafe need to be redone and pretty close to nothing changed?
Why previously were buildings being cleaned every single night? They look pretty much exactly the same now even though they're being cleaned 2-3 times per week.
Theyre not entirely the same thing. Marketing tended to go towards market research, branding strategies, etc, while i believe advertising focused more on effective advertising techiques, etc (i wouldve liked to take more advertising classes, i only took the intro one), but i agree that those two majors would be excellent candidates for a merger to 'marketing and advertising'.
The universities need to figure out ways to reduce the cost of an education because it is getting ridiculous.
The problem is not the universities, it is the irresponsible cuts in educational funding by the legislature over the last 20 years. State funding has been cut nearly 30% since 1997.
Yep. Its one thing to tighten the state government belt during tough times. I think thats a good thing. The problem is that the state has been tightening the belt around the schools for years and years good times and bad. If these last couple years were the first cuts itd be no big deal.
I agree that is a big part of it, but There has probably been a greater than 30% increase in tuition since 1997. But yes, state funding for higher education has become a joke. Politicians love talking about a quality and affordable education but that is all it is is just talk. Iowa has one of the worst ratios when comparing average household income to cost of higher education.
If these are the assumptions upon which you base the idea that universities are wasting money, then I'll just say that you're basically wrong on every count.
First of all, what does a "full staff" entail? The College of Business has five departments, which are overseen by only three department chairs. The only "staff" those departments have are secretaries, of which there are four. You realize those secretaries support their entire departments, right? Including all the faculty in those departments.
If marketing and advertising were the same thing, they'd be the same major. They aren't, and so they aren't. (Accounting and finance are the same thing, aren't they? So why not combine them?)
As for the Business Cafe, do you really think someone would do a project like that if the cost-benefit wasn't positive? It's not like there was money just laying around waiting to be spent. There is an expectation that a project like that will pay for itself, or it doesn't get done.
And for building cleanings, if you can't tell a difference between buildings cleaned every day and buildings that aren't...well, you're probably a student who's used to sloppy living conditions. A building that generates traffic and trash of a few thousand people a day gets pretty dirty, pretty quickly.
http://www.regents.iowa.gov/Meetings/Minutes/97minutes/sep97.pdf
$2,874 was the recommended tuition in 1998-1999. $6,408 for 2011-2012. Iowa State University: Fees Information
The College of Business has cut a TON of staff to be down to 4 (which they are now). The fact however is that the services haven't changed since they cut it down. All of the extra stuff cut was wasted money.
And for the Business Cafe, if you're in this "budget crisis" you live to fight another day. You put capital projects on hold until they HAVE to be done. Want food? Walk your *** to the MU. Don't get lost in the half block of a walk it is.
And there's a minimal difference between Gerdin now and before the cuts. It gets the same amount of dirt and newspapers thrown everywhere over 2 days as it does over 1. It isn't the ER, it doesn't need to be spectacularly clean. I actually have a very clean apartment and it isn't even close to what would be considered dirty. I've seen Gerdin filthy a couple times and that's after people trek the sand in from outside after it has snowed.
If the school is so strapped for money, why are capital projects like replacing Morrill Road being done? Amazingly the University came up with $5,000,000 for a new lecture hall to match the donation. Look at all the new dining centers popping up on campus. The old MWL dining center was just so run down it HAD to be replaced while the University is making huge cuts. Students voted for the State Gym renovation so I'll let that one go.
Iowa State (specifically the CoB) could also learn what a backbone is. Students want smaller class sizes? Well, tell them if they want that they can start at DMACC instead of charging another $1,500? in differential tuition for classes in which 80% of the people don't care as it is. Highest average student debt in the COUNTRY and they haven't done anything to try to change the trend. How about the few million dollars per year the GSB gets to allocate to clubs? Want something clubs? Great, have a fundraiser and get the money yourself instead of relying on the University to subsidize what you want.
I'd actually argue that a ton of programs on campus alone are a waste of money. If they have a counterpart they can be paired with like OSCM and LSCM were, do it! There's no reason to have two programs that are pretty close to the same thing and require two fulls sets of faculty when you could combine them and use 15 faculty instead of 20.
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No kidding. What was the point of putting 25 HDTVs in the UDCC dining center just so they can scroll text messages from students that send in texts saying how they love the UDCC dining center?
I don't know that it's 25, but yes they did do that. I think they did it over spring break back in March. At least I first noticed them when we got back from spring break.
I'll try to get a count when I go to eat there tonight.
Do you have the number for that? I have a few thoughts that I would love to submit.
