Also keep in mind that the difference between 12 and 13 games wasn't even a conference game it was an additional non-con tune up game.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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That's interesting. Curious how many conf champs would NOT have got in under this concept.
If you are taking top 8, your conf champs should just about always be in -- unless you get a weak division winner upsetting the other side.
Big ten west had never beat the east, answer your question?
Is there any chance the B10 takes 6 more teams from P12?
That's my main concern is that the P2 will consist of 48 teams and the B12 will be left pretty far behind.
That's my main concern is that the P2 will consist of 48 teams and the B12 will be left pretty far behind.
Really, I think the Big 12 takes the teams that they want, and then wait for the ACC to blow up. No need in adding teams to the conference that don't increase the payout. After the SEC and Big 10 take the teams they want, I'm sure there will be some teams available that would be additive to the conference.
Absolutely. It's hard for me to believe it's gonna happen, but McMurphy is typically pretty credible. And it sounds like he honestly believes it.
In most basic sense, whatever type of system is established, regardless of size of playoff field, all I ask is consistent application.
Is conference title required? Either it is or isn't.
If it is, can league determine its champion with or without a playoff? Shouldn't matter either way.
And so on.
Everyone knew that Clemson was a sleeping giant because of their location and being close to so many elite recruits. Same way that Saban viewed LSU when he took over in the early 00s.
I saw the subtle bias here and there all along with the way the rankings and ranking criteria changed week to week...but when suddenly it was no big deal to play 6 while most others played 10 or 11, a few years after 12 games instead of 13 meant elimination...the committee is as legit to me as a WWE match after that.
You could also just list out the committee and its conference attachments every year to see the obvious bias. Always 3 or 4 Big Ten homer members who tend to be legends of the sport. Other leagues would get a single nerdy no name athletic director or nobody at all.
If there is any way possible the Big 10 would take them, Oregon would obviously try everything to make it happen. Not just for the money reasons. Ultimately they fancy themselves better than either the PAC 12 or Big 12 and would do anything to leave.
Oregon to b10 alone guarantees mountain time zone schools approach b12 imho, if they already have, now they’d do so more urgently.
No. If Oregon and Washington are bubble teams for value then nobody else is close. Stanfords lifeline is ND. Cal(gross) needs a lifeline from ND and Stanford/UCLA. At most it'll be 4
Give it time. The B1G is already using an NFL strategy for broadcast partners. Some unholy alliance of the top schools with collective bargaining, paid players, and prime TV slots is just around the corner.
RIP, college football
I don't recall that being a CFP committee policy. I thought it was the Big 10's policy that only teams that played a minimum of 6 games would be eligible for their conference championship game. Ohio State was at risk of not making the conference championship game and thus possibly not making the CFP either.
They have a won conference titles in 8 of last 9 decades. They are 14th all time in wins and 21st all time winning percentage. They had one average decade(which you conveniently lumped in with the 90’s, a great decade) in a 90 year span. 11th all time in conf championships. 12th all time bowl appearances. They were and have been a fantastic program before Dabo showed up, he just made them elite.Great question, I am glad you asked that question.
1950s to 1980 they averaged 5.5 wins per season (vs 4.6 losses, ie barely over .500)
1980s avg record 9.1 - 2.1 (incl five 10 win seasons and a 12-0 season)
1990-2000s avg record 7 - 5 (good but not great, Bob)
2011-2020 avg record 12 - 2 (totally elite)
So they were very average for a long time, real good in the 1980s, average again for 20 years, but freaking awesome the last decade.
Things CAN change, with the right coach and support. This also says a lot about recency bias.
If Clemson can do it, so can someone else in the B12.
There is no one in the Big 12 with that kind of resume to build off of. Now I do agree that programs can elevate and be better for stretches. It’s not impossible, but it’s very difficult. It will be much harder going forward for teams not in the P2. Clemson isn’t a good example. Oregon maybe? Florida State?
