Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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By that logic, every A10, Valley, CUSA, etc team needs judicial and congressional intervention.
CBS/Turner wants more power league teams in the NCAA tournament for ratings and that came at the expense of those leagues. Our league distribution has gone from $1.3M to $800k. That's financial damage.
I want my intervention too.
CBS/Turner wants more power league teams in the NCAA tournament for ratings and that came at the expense of those leagues. Our league distribution has gone from $1.3M to $800k. That's financial damage.
I want my intervention too.
Show me an industry that’s more corrupt and broken than college athletics
Easy, but let’s start with Private Equity, get it now?
Which is why one could argue intervention is justified. I mean, only two big draws but they kill three other conferences. Takes something like getting in bed with one of the major networks, forming an Alliance, then poaching
That’s not necessarily my opinion, but favorable relationships with networks undoubtedly had a major impact on how fairly equal conferences got down to 2 peer conferences
Nice try, but CBS/Turner didn't drive that decision, it was P5 conferences. And CBS/Turner doesn't want additional tourney expansion.
And a big difference between $25M of lost annual revenues for relegated PAC, ACC and B12 schools and $500K/yr.
I get it, you actually know little about PE
What you fear about PE is already rampant in college athletics
Let’s not be pedantic. The point is the TV rights aggregation at scale can be profitable for whatever entity that achieves that, and that need for profit being passed on to schools would be beneficial for an industry begging fans for more money, cutting sports, all while revenues are up considerably over the last several decades
It could be PE, it could be companies like Amazon or Apple or even ESPN. It could be a mix of both
We’re okay with leaving some schools behind- or never inviting them to the club to begin with.
It’s unlikely to occur, but schools that suffer a big drop in revenue come 2032 will have had over a decade of heads up to the risk. Responsible Big 12 schools had since at least 2017 to know there was major uncertainty on revenue come 2025, let alone 2032
Very unlikely to get intervention in the 2030’s because athletic directors banked on revenue 10+ years out that was no assurances it would be there
You can’t lose what you never had. I’d be surprised if we could even borrow against such revenue right now.
It is not a violation of the 1984 NCAA TV court decision for the P4 conferences to aggregate their TV rights and bid them out NFL style to multiple bidders beyond ESPN/Fox. That court decision broke up the NCAA/ABC monopoly on CFB TV rights at that time.
ESPN/SEC and Fox/B10 are on a clear path to add more desired CFB brands and relegate/destroy 25-30 more leftover ACC and B12 schools by 2032. Fox/B10 has already wiped out the PAC and destroyed ORSt/Wazzu. And the only way to stop them from doing so is likely going to take some level of Congressional and/or Judicial intervention. And this is coming from JP, not me.
There is a reason that recent B10 and SEC meetings had anti-trust lawyers present. Their desired actions at the request of ESPN and Fox warrant intervention.
Its not destroying schools though. Just football programs. Not the same thing at all. And theres a nonzero amount of administrators, gvmt officials, and plain old citizens that would WELCOME the end of football at a lot of schools.
A lot of schools, maybe the majority, would be financially better off without football.
Are you serious?
If ISU has their TV revenues in 2032 cut from $35M annually to $10M or less, that impacts all of its sports programs since FB revenues subsidize all sports at ISU, even MBB to some extent.
Same deal with 25-30 other ACC and B12 schools facing relegation between 2027 and 2032.
And if that competitive/financial relegation does happen to ISU, JTS attendance immediately drops in the 40K range or less, enrollment drops, CyTown development is hosed, ISU becomes a clear 2nd fiddle to TOE, etc., etc.
And this is why ACC and B12 Presidents/ADs are all in on the CST and Rudy/Smash initiatives to prevent destructive relegation (and also why ESPN and Fox are holding a gun to the head of SEC/B10 Presidents/ADs to not be involved with those initiatives).
I know plenty about PE, like how an origination is 10 times more likely to go bankrupt if managed by PE. What PE does is by no means already being done in college athletics.
Yes, I get it, you know little, and continue to miss the point.
Since you don’t actually know much about PE, let’s focus on the actual point
College athletics is the worst a corporate America. It would benefit being under a single entity that implemented a spending cap and had the power to govern/regulate. A company like Amazon could do that and make money. A win/win
I agree restructuring could work to our advantage, but the schools don't need PE to do that. Once the current media deals run out there's nothing stopping the P4 from getting together, forming an new subdivision, aggregating media rights, and moving teams into geographic divisions. Or at least nothing that a PE-backed plan wouldn't run into as well. They'd just need to come up with a way to split the money and power in a way that makes everyone happy.
It's a nice dream, but I don't see it happening, and while PE funding could help with the money end (in the short term), it just makes the power struggle more complicated. Why invite that in if we don't have to?
Totally agree with all that. Terrible for football and other sports. But sports is not the university, and there will be useful fools that will be on the side of the rich and powerful P2 and media.
I am saying there are huge, probably insurmountable, challenges to aggregation efforts. And thst goes for both gvmt intervention as well as PE. Its hard to kum bah yah everyone, when 1/3rd of the needed players think they are better off as is. Its game theory prisoners dilemma-ish situation.
Already posted a couple of JP's direct quotes and in addition to those, he dropped the intervention scenario on the Coaches Corner podcast claiming that Wazzu/ORSt being destroyed (his words) evidently wasn't enough to move the needle for gov't intervention at this point.
