Raising Ticket prices 07-08

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Just to add...

I do know for a fact that Blalock and Stinson left ISU because of Morgan's inability to recruit the players they wanted. They had firmly decided to leave before Morgan was fired and that is a fact. I have talked to people that were in the conversations and they stated that Blalock and Stinson both were very upset with Morgan's ability to get them the support they needed on the inside and as a second PF, and secondly thought he wasn't doing enough to coach the players they did have.

You can love Will and Curtis all you want but the fact is they even had their doubts about Morgan after the first third of the season was wrapping up. And they have always been the ones that were thought to like him the most.
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Thats kind of a surprise to me. I cant blame them for having that view because thats the view i have now about him. I admit that i was high on morgan when he was coach. I was drinking the cool-aid. I was a coolaidaholic if you will. I was so pissed about his firing that i wanted to pull all my donations to not just the Athletic program, but the university that i attended and love. But when Jamie pollard got mcD, i started to think. I looked back on what morgan had done to our program and began to change my mind. Now i look at morgan as the worst possible thing that could have happened to our program. He ruined it. we wouldnt be in this position if he had coached his players and cared about them instead of himself. He cared about the stars on the team but not the hardworking ones. If thats the kind of coach he wants to be he'd be better off as an assitstant in the NBA, which will never happen.
Discombob...i respect your opinion but these recruits are not bad no matter how you spin it. They are talented 3-stars, which is about equal to a 5-star here in the spring. they will work hard for McD and play hard. Your right, we may have a crappy season, but maybe not. What if, by the grace of god almighty, the recruits actually do good? What would hapopen if McIntosh, Taylor, both Johnsons and Dunson all become consistent players and we have an 18 win season? The odds are against us but at least two of these guys should step up. Add Clark, Marsden, and hopefully Hubalek to the mix and a great coach and staff and even you cant deny that is going to be an exciting team to watch.
Although, i agree with you that it may be tough to replace the juniors-to-be when they graduate. But i also agree that it is important to win immeadiatley or we will have no one to fill the schollies anyway. At this point i think we should try to get stiggers and bank the rest of the schollies even without him. Now that blalock is gone i wouldnt be too against the smith kid, but i agree we need to have some schollies for the next few years.
In conclusion, dicombob, we disagree on just about everything but if you werent here posting we would have a pretty boring site here. Thank you.

 

[Jer]

I agree. I don't want it to appear that I am not valuing your input discombobulated, I really do think it provides an important angle on thigns.

 

[discombobulated]

[I talked to Michael and several other potential recruits, they didn't know anything about ISU but absolutely fell in love with the staff and the school once they were here. That is who I want on the team, not some 7 footer that gets blown over in the wind of an offensive player running past him because he's too busy thinking about going to the NBA next year (Taggart).
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Here is my problem with what everyone seems to be saying. You don't think that the Morgan recruits fell in love with the staff and the school, rather that they only fell in love with the staff, which everyone considerd a bad thing. These guys fall in love with the staff and that is great. Why the diconnect, why is it bad to love wm, but great to love Mcd? The reason 98% of recruits go to any school is the coaching staff, and that is just the way it is unless you either are duke, unc or ku, or you grew up rooting for a team.
I say they were Mcd's to lose because if he really tried he could have gotten taggs, degand wb and lw to stay. By all accounts I have heard, he personally ran off all of those guys, with the exception of will. If WB and CS were so disinfranchised with the former staff, they should have been thrilled with the change and given the new guy more of a chance. I seem to remember an interview with will in which he said he was upset at the morgan firing because we had the top big in the country coming in, which he was very exited about.
Just to let you know, the "high end" tickets is where the athletic dept gets most of its money from. In order to get one of those seats you must first donate a quite sizable amount of money, and running those people off by raising prices hurts a lot more than worrying about if anyone shows up in the cheap seats or not. 1 parquet seat = about 20 blacony seats in terms of revenue ($200 season ticket v 5 k((min) donation), and pissing those people off will cause a bad thing, despite how many new younger fans the team may get.

 

[dbronco7sc]

Maybe I'll sound dumb by not knowing this... but who was the top big in the country coming in according to Will?

 

[Jer]

discombob-

You are right, the parquet seets are where the money is. Did you also notice that several high profile donors and sponsors left over the Morgan years? I happen to be very informed on several high-profile donors for life that left because of what they saw on the court. All of the donors that I have talked to love bringing in GMAC. They want a return on their money and they feel they have a chance to get that return now.

 

[Wesley]

Was the top Big referred to that Cleveland, Ohio, fellow that went to Ohio State?

As far as ticket prices go, look at Nebraska and Devaney Center (hunk of junk building) with a marshmallow preseason schedule. Now that can be considered expensive for a bball ticket.

The biggest shocker was all the losses in Hilton. That was terrible. I do not remember that many losses in one year for decades. I thought when Kansas came to town with ESPN broadcasting, we would see a game. Iona? I cringe at watching the bigs running aroud with their heads cut off in Hilton.

We need to take back THE HILTON next year starting now.

And I would say forget going to Des Moines to play the BIG ONE, let's keep all the games we can at Hilton. We should have beat Ohio State. That was the real beginning of the end of WM - how that game ended. Can we spell rudderless?

ISU was very lucky to get Hilton built many years ago even if it is on a floodplain. The old Armory was miserable.

 

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jerome habel #2 overall juco recruit. What sponcers left? It sure wasnt kum and go, pursuit, pioneer, mid american energy, .etc. As for the people leaving the parquet, i know everyone in my section was the same as they always were, and my section isn't cheap. However, some of those people are really upset with the way the program is going, and that isn't real good. That isn't to say they all loved morgan, a lot didn't, however, this new hire sure as hell didn't excite them at all either (yes I talk to them in the offseason). I have seen many of my area in such places as shreveport and boise, so they are the money where your mouth is die hard fans, and when they start to get upset, that is a real bad thing.

 

[Jer]

One of the biggest and oldest sponsors was Bob Benson. He left because of many reasons he has expressed both publically and privately. That would be your first person to research.

 

[discombobulated]

that is not a big sponcer, he hasn't been for years since he actually had to give away a car in the shoot five for five game which he promptly pulled the plug on. A local car dealership with a sole owner is not what I consider a huge loss, as it is one person making the decision and people are fickle. We may have lost him but we added others like kum and go (despite the fact they are owned by a huge hawk fan)