We were a lot like K-State before Snyder, except we were actually a better football program than they were, but the right coach shot them right past us and a lot of other Big 8/12 programs. It can be done with the right guy, even at ISU.
Pollard and blame
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We were a lot like K-State before Snyder, except we were actually a better football program than they were, but the right coach shot them right past us and a lot of other Big 8/12 programs. It can be done with the right guy, even at ISU.
I agree that JP has enough goodwill built up to be shielded. But I have also turned off my Kool Aide drip regarding CPR and agree that it is time for his seat to be quite toasty. I have read a couple of different places that ISU FB now has one of the best recruiting staffs in the country with all the new guys so am also anxious to see if that shows up on the field soon enough to save his ***. I stopped watching a the half yesterday and I have NEVER done that before.
I actually think for the first few years Rhoads was a good hire. I believe something happened that changed him. He did things not done before at ISU in his first few years and I don't think a bad coach does those things. I don't know what happened now. Mess was a bad decision and that probably cost us a good season one year and I think if Mangino is here last year, we are 1-2 wins better. I don't believe we hired the same guy we have here now and I won't pretend to know what happened.
And of course there were a couple slightly important college athletic stories that the media reported on during those first two years also, correct?
In fact in their reporting, Iowa State was mentioned by name in many of their stories and reports too. Do I remember that correctly?
So you acknowledge that we were close to being removed from a Power 5 conference, but you won't admit that it had an impact on recruiting for those two years???
I am not sure, but I think that the KSU administration relaxed the admittance standard to allow partial qualifiers into the school. I agree that it can be done, but there are 4 Jim Criners for every Bill Snyder and Art Briles. One thing that everyone forgets is that ISU could hire someone worse than CPR, and they have certainly done it before.
A contract extension that fans were begging for just a few short years ago.
Someone hired away one of our coaches. That certainly shouldn't count against Pollard.
I agree 100% with you. Rhoads started out making out of the box decisions, going for it in certain situations, etc. And that's all gone now.
But Rhoads has had 1.5 awful seasons out of 5.5 years. And, like it or now, at Iowa State that is good enough to keep your job.
We are light years ahead of the Walden years and light years ahead of the early Mac years. I have never seen anyone who makes up as much crap as you do.
The "walden years" weren't all the same. Eight seasons. Started bad, finished bad, but a couple of good teams. Which "walden years" are we going by? 1989 team was a bowl team by today's standards and would have kicked the *** of any Rhoads team, plain and simp.
Agree. The McD contract was also bad for ISU.
JP has done many good things, but he has overall responsibility for addressing the poor perfromances on the field. I'm in the camp of giving CPR one more year. Hope JP has similar expectations.
Rhoads used to be very aggressive. Going for random onside kicks here and there, going for 2 against Nebraska, going for it on 4th down seemingly more often than now, etc. but he's a bit more passive these days IMO, even with the fake punt on Saturday.
The problem with having 1.5/5.5 bad seasons is that the bad seasons are happening with his own recruits, 5-6 years into his tenure. McCarney had some straight up AWFUL years, but his teams could bounce back the next year. It's different when a 2-10 year is sandwiched between 7 win season, as opposed to back-to-back 3-9 seasons.
It appears to me that last year was part of a downward spiral, not just an aberration.
Pollard's job isn't to win football games. It's to create a thriving environment, getting donations, and giving the sports what they need to create a winner. I don't see how you look at anything that is going on at ISU right now and think that Pollard is not doing a good job. He can't recruit the kids and coach the football team, but it seems to me he is providing them with the support and facilities needed.
Maybe stress to win, pressure to compete, dreaded questions, running out of responses, long term contract, and maybe personal medical problems. Who knows. He seems to have some burn out with all the losses. Arguing with the sideline refs continually only gets you so far. Who knows. 2011 seems so far in the past.
Giving what we need 'to create a winner' is making sure we have the right head coach on the field or court. Not sure why some people think that is Leath's job, but it does fall on JP.
