NBA: Paul Pierce - HOF?
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Lifetime diehard Celts fan here...I've watched the majority of Pierce's games in his career, both before and after KG and Allen were on the C's and his is a shoe-in for the HOF. Most people forget that he carried a terrible Celts team to the brink of the Finals back in 2002, and was the best player on the C's during their championship run in 2008. He has surpassed most legendary C's, including Bird in most of the stats lists, including scoring, FT's made and attempted, steals etc...he's a great clutch player (something Vince Carter has never been) and he'd been the captain for the last 11 years. I think he's flown under the radar for most of his career and has actually been one of the more underappreciated stars in the NBA.
The thing that hurts McGrady is that he never got out of the first round in his career. It's one thing for a great player to never win a title. Has a HOFer ever not won a playoff series?
I was going to make light of that site but it had Jason Kidd 8th on that list (easy HOF) and Steve Nash 19th so it looks good to me! :smile:
You are joking right? That list has Steve Nash, a two time league MVP, considered one of the greatest point guards of all time, near the top in assists, right at the top in 3 point field goal percentage ranked 19th with only a 54% chance of getting in, but has Chris Paul, Chris Bosh, Vince Carter, Tony Parker, Pau Gasol, Amere Stoudemire, and TMac all having a better shot. Get the **** out of here.
Haha..there are obviously some contextual errors with their formula. But at the very least there is some science (however bizarre) behind it.
I would agree that Nash has no business being behind those fellas. As Bryce Harper would say, "That's a clown stat, bro."
Apparently you aren't familiar with who is in the HOF. Chris Mullin is in. What did he do in the playoffs?
2 time All NBA player. Pierce NEVER was
3 time all NBA 2nd team. Pierce only once
2 time all NBA 3rd team. Pierce 3 times.
From 2000 to 2007 he was a much better player than Pierce. McGrady was something Pierce has never been, a superstar. But, McGrady got old and got injured and Pierce made up ground the last 5 years.
My question is what else does Tim Duncan have to do to get that extra .0000001% ??
Go compare their first 10 years in the league. Compare both of them during their primes.
McGrady shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Paul Pierce in terms of overall career. I would agree that TMac had a higher ceiling than PP but McGrady's prime only lasted about 3 years due to injuries. Not to mention McGrady's lack of playoff success. He played on some decent Houston teams that could have easily made some runs.
Pierce was durable during his career, won a championship, was a Finals MVP, and averaged 22, 6, and 4. The guy deserves to be in the HOF.
Pierce was durable during his career, won a championship, was a Finals MVP, and averaged 22, 6, and 4. The guy deserves to be in the HOF.
Last time I checked, careers are more than just the time 'in their primes'
Based on your reasoning, Terrell Davis would be the best RB ever in the NFL. :twitcy:
8 straight seasons of over 24 ppg. How do you get only 3 years out of that? He was All NBA team for 7 seasons.
Compare McGrady's playoff stats to that of Pierce's as well. 4 more ppg, more rebounds, more assists. He just played on bad teams. He didn't have the supporting cast that Pierce has had.
McGrady's playoff #'s during his prime
2001 Orlando 4 4 44.5 .415 .200 .816 6.5 8.3 1.8 1.2 33.8
2002 Orlando 4 4 44.5 .462 .313 .739 6.3 5.5 .5 1.8 30.8
2003 Orlando 7 7 44.0 .448 .340 .773 6.7 4.7 2.0 .9 31.7
2005 Houston 7 7 43.0 .456 .370 .824 7.4 6.7 1.6 1.4 30.7
2007 Houston 7 7 40.0 .394 .250 .737 5.9 7.3 .7 .9 25.3
2008 Houston 6 6 41.2 .425 .208 .623 8.2 6.8 1.5 .8 27.0
Numbers above are way better than Pierce's ever have been
