Pac-12 to decide whether to expand within a couple weeks

AuH2O

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I'm saying geography matters.

So, you are saying saying the PAC schools are more concerned about saving 45 minutes on a plane by selecting KSU, rather than select the team that would be a close 2nd in football attendance and 3rd in TV viewership in the PAC, that is an AAU school? They have been a pretty poorly run conference, but I doubt they are THAT dumb.
 

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If the SEC and Pac-12 are at 16. You bet you a$$ that the B1G and ACC are going to 16

With an "alliance of teams" amongst the 3 other power conferences. You probably don't have to worry about USC and Oregon going to the B1G. With all that.. I'm feeling REALLY good about a B1G invite, which would be the holy grail for our athletic department

Jack Trice Skybox project, Hiltion get's a big update, Jamie's commercial district get's built

If ACC and Big Ten go 16 were only talking about three teams total since ND is already in mix with ACC.

Not enough to destabilize the PAC if big ten went that route.

20-22 team conferences will mean two majors. ACC would be where we are now and maybe PAC.

16 means four majors.

24 or more is one NFL G league.

Status quo is big 12 barely hanging on to P5 the way the big east barely hung on to BCS status.
 

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Yeah this is the scenario I see playing out. Hopefully Bowlsby has already mailed out his invites to Cincinnati, BYU, Houston, and SMU
I'm sorry, someone is going to have to explain to me why I'm getting dumbed out of the building here...

Cincinnati -- Former "power conference" member of the Big East. Expand east and give WVU a natural conference rival.
Houston and SMU --- Former "power conference" members of the SWC, natural fit.
BYU -- never in a "power conference" per se, but hold more clout as an Independent than as an AAC/Mtn West conference team, large fan base too.

Honorable mention for Rice, also as a former member of the SWC. We already have TCU and Baylor, and in this hypothetical we'd have BYU. Might as well add another Christian school to the mix and you could add them over Cincinnati since everyone is weird about "city" colleges being in a power conference.

This solution makes sense if we're adding teams. No directional schools (which I agree with) and only 1 or 2 at most, city colleges, which I'm sorry, I don't understand why that's weird.
 

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I'm sorry, someone is going to have to explain to me why I'm getting dumbed out of the building here...

Cincinnati -- Former "power conference" member of the Big East. Expand east and give WVU a natural conference rival.
Houston and SMU --- Former "power conference" members of the SWC, natural fit.
BYU -- never in a "power conference" per se, but hold more clout as an Independent than as an AAC/Mtn West conference team, large fan base too.

Honorable mention for Rice, also as a former member of the SWC. We already have TCU and Baylor, and in this hypothetical we'd have BYU. Might as well add another Christian school to the mix and you could add them over Cincinnati since everyone is weird about "city" colleges being in a power conference.

This solution makes sense if we're adding teams. No directional schools (which I agree with) and only 1 or 2 at most, city colleges, which I'm sorry, I don't understand why that's weird.

It’s dumb because your cart is 100 kilometers ahead of your horses.
 

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Yes, a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

Especially because a Pac-12 invite to us probably comes with ones to Tech, OSU, and let’s say Kansas. If we say no or even hesitate, the other 3 all say yes and the Pac-12 just moves on to TCU. Now we are looking at joining the American with WVU, K-State, and Baylor. We have to say yes if we get an invite - same is true for all the Big 12 schools.
 

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I agree at least on the top 2 tiers. The only thing that I am hung up on is if the Pac-12 views this as a chance to get a stronger foothold in Texas. That strikes me as the best chance of ISU getting left out IF the Pac-12 elects to expand. I could see a world in which they want to go to 16, want at least two Texas schools, and the 3rd is OSU. Kansas football is horrible but they are closer in geography and have an elite basketball brand; they could get the 4th spot (or it could be a 3rd Texas school).

still think the most likely outcome is the Pac saying no expansion


so which is it, tv ratings or states where no one watches the teams you are forwarding as better options than Iowa state?


You guys continually contradict yourselves. Eyeballs matter, no one watches tech at all, so that would force you to say something positive about Iowa state, so you change to regions.

No one in Texas watches tech. Kids that go to school there, end up there because it’s cheap and they accept everybody. The rooting interests are with ut and a&m in this state. There’s a reason their ad made public statements, they know they’re in trouble.

Oklahoma state is different, but still the second school in their state by a long long ways, again no one watches them either. Cable subscriptions don’t matter anymore.

And still waiting for you to explain how Disney is going to get themselves and the two schools out of paying exit fees
 

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