FSU and whatever other teams they were to invite would bring in enough $$$ cash IF(unfortunately unlikely) the big xii would do a big xii network. why do you think teams from major population markets are being snatched up. Cause those conferences have/well have s national network and they wasn't the subscriber fees. Even without the longhorns, we'd still have all of Texas and Florida if we got FSU and Miami. The conference is really dropping the ball with the stupid "your own 3rd tier rights deal". So much more money to be had, we could all be making Longhorn network money, instead of a fraction of it.
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Holy **** that would likely be disastrous. That is akin to being down by 5 with two minutes left and hoping it comes down to a Hail Mary. Sure you could win, but the odds are not in your favor.
Very weak and risky assumptions as to: 1.) how the Big 12 would react. Very possible that is not how programs divide. 2.) 16 team conferences that would have more influence and make more money than the Big 12 working poorly 3.) If you think the remaining Big 12 teams would be free-agents after the GoR, meaning conferences beyond 16, why assume there would be enough schools left to hold up the GoR initially? Even if the unlikely happened and the GoR did hold up, good luck finding coaches and recruits wanting to be in a crappy 5 team conference.
The other 4 conferences first reaching 16 would be the death of the Big 12 conference, and the Big 12 schools not part of the initial expansion. The only way that would be good for ISU is if the Big 10's estrogen spiked and tossed us a life-raft while on the way to pick-up KU to reach 20 (while being at the same the other schools leave).
If the ACC blows up, ND will be forced to find a new home for their non-FB sports. ND wants those sports in a premier conference, not in a conference with ACC leftovers like Wake Forest or with commuter schools like Cincy, Memphis and Houston. A premier home for their non-FB sports is also a very high priority for ND and will factor heavily in their decision process to help keep the ACC alive with full membership or join another conference as a full member so that they have a home for their non-FB sports.
Yes. It would not even have to be equitable pay from the conference network for it to be a win-win. Let UT, OU, and FSU keep more of the take.
You mean like they were in the Big East with UL, Cincy, etc?
Priority #1 is to remain independent in football. Just like they did not for the Big East, ND is not going to join full-time to prevent the conference from being picked apart. If the ACC blows up, ND can move the non-football sports back to the resulting combination of the Big East and left out ACC, which would be a lot like the old Big East.
The only way ND joins full-time is if they believe they need to be in a conference to be relevant in post-season play. ND may believe this is if significant expansion happens, at which point they can choose which conference they would like to join. The Big 10 is trying their hardest to get ND to jump, but ND will continue to call their bluff.
I haven't seen this in the thread anywhere but it really doesn't appear that we will end up with FSU. Their preference, IN ORDER, is: 1)SEC, 2)B1G, 3)keep ACC in tact.
Short-sighted on their part, but fortunately expansion is not always about preference.
I dont agree, I think its SEC, BIG or Big 12, they are not getting an invite from SEC and not an AAU member to get an invite from the BIG and I have read from every national reporter, there are no exceptions there. The BIG presidents are still upset with NU as they were a member when invited and lost it shortly after BIG membership. ISU has a better shot at the BIG than FSU. My theory is once NC and Virginia leave, FSU and GT will be grabbing for anything to get out. And thats before the SEC comes in. Lets face it SEC and BIG WILL pull a minimum of 4 teams from the ACC. I see more than that. For some reason I still think ISU is in the BIG someday if the Big 12 does fall apart. I think at a minimum the BIG is a 20 team league.
According to several blogs/tweets I've read, FSU's preference is 1) Keep ACC intact with better TV deal; 2) SEC 3) B10 and 4) B12
#1 likely won't happen without ND
#2 - Due to new SEC Network, SEC prefers expansion outside of current footprint, likely with UNC and VPI
#3 - FSU is not AAU and it doesn't appear B10 will bend on that (Nebraska was AAU when invited by B10 otherwise they don't get in).
#4 - By default, B12 is likely destination if ND doesn't join ACC as full member or if ESPN doesn't re-do ACC TV deal without ND.
Once again, FSU's refusal to sign the $50 million buyout clause speaks louder than the assumptions of bloggers/tweeters who are throwing poo at the wall to see what sticks.
And once again, if you believed everything bloggers/tweeters said, the Big 12 would have ceased to exist 2 years ago and ISU, not Tulsa, would have won CUSA this year.
LOL calm down. This is a 97 page thread based mostly on rumors and tweets.
97 pages? May I suggest the 40-post page view?
That thought has been given ad nauseam.
Im back to the point that i'll believe it when i see it from somewhere above blogger status. Even a radio station at this point. I believe the big 10 will expand again. Enough administrators have been blatantly open that 16 is better than 14 that i think it'll go that way. But it may not be this year. It may be a couple years. The SEC will likely do the same, but again, it may be a process. I don't feel like it is imminent. I think everyone is going to want to see how that 50mil holds up in court before any more ACC moves are made.
I also continue to believe MHVer3 is completely full of ****, though he's good for entertainment value. I think he's claimed to have sources in just about every university, up to and including the university of phoenix. Thedude of WV i think gets some information (almost all from WV sources), but most is out of context and some is misinformation. He applies his own interpretation of what he gets and thats where things often go wrong for him.
I also continue to believe MHVer3 is completely full of ****, though he's good for entertainment value. I think he's claimed to have sources in just about every university, up to and including the university of phoenix. Thedude of WV i think gets some information (almost all from WV sources), but most is out of context and some is misinformation. He applies his own interpretation of what he gets and thats where things often go wrong for him.
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