Official Announcement of TJ as the New Iowa State Mens BBall Coach

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This is a dumb take.

1. UNLV was in full on rebuild when TJ got there. Pretty much everyone on the team the year before that was any good left. Yet he still exceeded in 2019 - 2020 -> During the 2019-20 campaign, he guided the team to a tie for second place in the Mountain West, marking the program's best league finish in 12 years. This year was derailed by injuries to the program along with a month long hiatus due to covid

2. I don't get the love for Craig Smith -> whatever it is people see in him, I don't see. He has one dominant player in the MW conference that wouldn't be in a P5 conference. Craig Smith was near the very bottom of any list of coaches I would want at ISU.

3. Nepotism... ok, right... cause I mean it's not like we are hiring a guy who has no experience what so ever here....

And to put a last stamp here, I think UNLV was on the cups of a breakthrough. Until the DUI charge, TJ had two 4 star recruits heading to UNLV (a PG and PF).

He also had 9 new players on the roster this year, 6 freshmen. UNLV hasn't been to the tournament since 2013 and haven't made it past the first round since '08. Their fanbase has some pretty out of whack expectations for where their program is at.
 

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This thread is INSANE. What pricks Cyclone fans have become. I really don't know who people expected? Any of those mid major guys that some were excited about had ZERO experince bringing in Big 12 level guys...Altman? Please, was never happening. TJ is a solid hire, dude can get players. Getting players is NUMBER ONE! Coaching is like a distant #8.

Recuiting quality players to Ames has become something of a red herring. Prohm recruited well here. Fred did excellent. McDermott and Morgan had dudes as well.

Inability to get the most out of those players got you two wins this season, in a league of Hall of Fame coaches whose ability is not a distant #8.
 

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I'll add another comment Jamie made some comment about how some people they contacted weren't interested, some people wanted to think about it, and then there was TJ!

What are the odds that IF there were real contacts with other people that those that candidates were actually still playing? Like maybe if we waited a week....
 

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The thing that sucks is Prohm has left the program in terrible shape. I think it will take at least 3 years to get back to the tournament (though w/ the crazy transfer market, who knows?). While the vocal minority will try to voice their displeasure, hopefully the majority is realistic and somewhat patient.
 

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I'll add another comment Jamie made some comment about how some people they contacted weren't interested, some people wanted to think about it, and then there was TJ!

What are the odds that IF there were real contacts with other people that those that candidates were actually still playing? Like maybe if we waited a week....
Almost as if they didn't really want to do a real search at all. Mr. Ego would never do that, and he sure wouldn't want the opportunity to prove everyone else wrong from before.
 

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I'll add another comment Jamie made some comment about how some people they contacted weren't interested, some people wanted to think about it, and then there was TJ!

What are the odds that IF there were real contacts with other people that those that candidates were actually still playing? Like maybe if we waited a week....
There’s no point listening to Jamie.
 

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I'll add another comment Jamie made some comment about how some people they contacted weren't interested, some people wanted to think about it, and then there was TJ!

What are the odds that IF there were real contacts with other people that those that candidates were actually still playing? Like maybe if we waited a week....

A week? What are you crazy? He would have been snatched up by.....nobody. Oh yeah, nobody else had interest in him. A true search would have been completed near the Final Four timeframe.
 

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Does anyone remember what Cat had to say about TJ? Not that it matters
 

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Are you people really that concerned about it? It's been assumed Jamie was going to hire TJ if he got the chance for YEARS. This is the guy he wanted to take over 6 years ago. We're now analyzing the shirt under his pullover? For what, so you can be more pissed he didn't hire some douchebag from Utah?
I think it's fair to be annoyed if the AD of a public university is outright lying. Obviously there are probably tons of instances of more egregious examples, but it still wouldn't be good!
 

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He also had 9 new players on the roster this year, 6 freshmen. UNLV hasn't been to the tournament since 2013 and haven't made it past the first round since '08. Their fanbase has some pretty out of whack expectations for where their program is at.
Some people on this board have pretty out if whack expectations for UNLV. They completely ignore what the program has been for over a decade and pretend like it still the 80s.
 

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I'm a big fan of what Pollard has accomplished here, and generally see him as a straight shooter. But the heavy spin from those two videos will have a big impact in how I react to what he says about anything going forward.
When Jamie’s failed and in a corner, he’s not good. Not a big deal, it’s just odd some here can’t see through it. Remember his transfer hit piece at the end of McD? For being a P5 AD he sure listens to the criticism and let’s it get to him.

In his defense- there’s not a lot of benefit to listening to most ADs or coaches at these things.
 

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And that's kind of the problem isn't it? Any opening should have a full net cast to try to acquire the best candidate. Not zeroing in on a single guy that no one else is interested in.



I mean, i think most are mostly joking about the shirt. Odds are JP owns a washing machine.



At the end of the day its a multimillion dollar position at a state-funded university. I think people have a right to expect a thorough process to ensure the best talent is acquired.

Is that TJ? Maybe. I hope it is. Certainly has some positives, particularly if he can keep recruiting as well as he did here in the past. And its a great feel-good story if it works. But we'll never truly know if we got the best candidate available because it doesn't seem like we actually cast much of a net. That's always going to rub people the wrong way. Even if sometimes that low-odds way of hiring works (as it did with hoiberg).
People expect Jamie to do his job. He did it. He hired a qualified candidate. There is no expectation of "process'. Why do you get to define "process"? What is a thorough process? Arguing about process is silly.
 

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When Jamie’s failed and in a corner, he’s not good. Not a big deal, it’s just odd some here can’t see through it. Remember his transfer hit piece at the end of McD? For being a P5 AD he sure listens to the criticism and let’s it get to him.

In his defense- there’s not a lot of benefit to listening to most ADs or coaches at these things.
Who cares. Jamie's a Cyclone Legend. Most of the fan base is going to roll with him.
 
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Some people on this board have pretty out if whack expectations for UNLV. They completely ignore what the program has been for over a decade and pretend like it still the 80s.
This isn’t about where UNLV was in the 80’s, but 3 years ago. The roster crumbled under TJ, they regressed. Next year’s roster was going to be a question, and TJ likely let go.
 

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Ok. Just guess my take was different. Its not like he can 'leak' any of those names or the behind-the-scenes process when we still had our coach. He clearly pointed out that consideration of 'possible' candidates, and communications were happening for some time due to the apparent and needed upcoming change. I guess you either believe him that TJ was the best 'fit' or you don't. I choose to believe him. If that's blind loyalty on my part, then so be it. (Admittedly, I really wanted Fred but NEVER thought it would happen.)
With transfers already flying around fast and furious, it was imperative to give our new coach as much time as possible.
He clearly said there were two processes, one for TJ and one so he could sell it to people like you.