*** Official #24 IOWA STATE vs #20 BYU Game(Day) Thread ***

[twojman]

I can understand losing. What I can not abide as a fan is a thorough and complete boat racing. Those need to stay buried back in the Prohm era.

Meh it happens. We were down 13 and I thought just starting to get some momentum. All of a sudden we're down 20. BYU handled the defense very well and took advantage of their open looks.

 

[cincinnaticyclone]

It reminds me of Tyrese Hunter a few years ago. With so many non-threat teammates he’s finding himself having to force the issue. And our jump shooting isn’t exactly helping spacing. If Keshon isn’t attacking I’m not sure where you think our offense comes from.

It’s not just that he’s forcing the issue it’s that he forces it extremely early in the shot clock, many times without even passing the ball first. He plays like he’s Russell Westbrook and he’s not

 

[kentkel]

Keshon has been remarkably inefficient. He went 6/15 from the field, 0/3 from 3 and had 4 turnovers.

2 of those were offensive fouls that were due to poor decision-making/body control.

 

[HouClone]

Credit to BYU's crowd. They were loud and in the game. They fit in with the Big 12.

 

[CYDJ]

Not sure what points off turnovers was but a big part of ISU's offense is points of turnovers. Maybe 6 points tonight?

Definitely like 26-28..... Oh, you meant for us.

 

[danvillecyclone]

Pretty much this. We hung on for awhile in a pretty obvious buzzsaw situation. It happens. BYU is going to be a WVU-esque place to go and get ran on in this league.

Unless you’re Cincinnati

 

[Cyinthenorth]

No one truly thought he was going to go through Big 12 defenses like he did the Lindenwood's and Green Bay's of the world....did they?

No. I think we've seen a more realistic learning curve for our mid major guys this year. Keshon has flashed more than Pav and C Jones, as expected, but all have struggled against P6, save for Iowa and DePaul which is we're being honest don't really count. As Isu fans, we were spoiled by DeAndre Kane coming in and dominating from the mid major level. I think many fans put these unfair expectations on incoming transfers ever since. Reality is the overwhelming majority of successful transfers over the years for us have been the ones that come from other P6 schools. Jones, Pav, and Gilbert may not realize full potential until next season.

 

[Bob f]

Not going to overreact to losing on the road to BYU. But where do we get offense from this team to win games on the road in the Big 12?

Slow it down and get it inside to our bigs. Same as at Hilton. If the shots not there kick it out and try again. Have to learn how to not get sped up. When it happens on offense, seems to carry over to the defense

 

[cincinnaticyclone]

No one truly thought he was going to go through Big 12 defenses like he did the Lindenwood's and Green Bay's of the world....did they?

No, but I was hopeful he’d take care of the ball better and pass the ball more

 

[hoosman]

No one had a good game tonight. There were probably 7 5-foot shots that were one foot off target.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Meh it happens. We were down 13 and I thought just starting to get some momentum. All of a sudden we're down 20. BYU handled the defense very well and took advantage of their open looks.

The basket was as big as the ocean for them tonight. Quite a few were wide open looks. But a smaller few were just the tip your cap type.

 

[kentkel]

Credit to BYU's crowd. They were loud and in the game. They fit in with the Big 12.

They were loud, but I prefer to give them, and #15, the Ejim Salute!

 

[NWICY]

TJ mentioned Tamin has ice on his shoulder, and that they'll evaluate and do what's best for his health. Mentioned it's been ongoing?

On the post game theres been a problem with that shoulder in the past then later in the game tonight he got knocked to the floor and dinged it up. Hopefully some rest and rehab and he will be good Sat. That last sentence is me being hopefull, no inside knowledge.

 

[Cyinthenorth]

I don't think we win the game had Ward not been ejected, but they just abused us in the paint after he left. Probably a 4-6 point swing

 

[cytor]

They were loud, but not Hilton loud.

 

[fsanford]

Definitely like 26-28..... Oh, you meant for us.

I think it ended up like 28 to 8

 

[drmwevr08]

No. I think we've seen a more realistic learning curve for our mid major guys this year. Keshon has flashed more than Pav and C Jones, as expected, but all have struggled against P6, save for Iowa and DePaul which is we're being honest don't really count. As Isu fans, we were spoiled by DeAndre Kane coming in and dominating from the mid major level. I think many fans put these unfair expectations on incoming transfers ever since. Reality is the overwhelming majority of successful transfers over the years for us have been the ones that come from other P6 schools. Jones, Pav, and Gilbert may not realize full potential until next season.

Kane was a grown ass man!

Let's hope they all learned something. The road isn't getting any easier in this meat grinder league. Definitely getting some weaknesses exposed that they can use going forward.

 

[CycloneRulzzz]

Bet the house on the under 144.5

if ISU manages to get to 70 AND gives up 75+... I'll order season tickets to carver hokeye, and I'll actually go. The ultimate torture.

UH OH

 

[ClonesFTW]

Our defense is our offense, and when we aren’t playing good defense it exposes how bad our half-court offense really is. This has been the trend for the last 3 seasons.

 

[thisISnextyear]

BYU played well and had a great gameplan tonight.

Our inability to score sometimes makes me wonder if this is what it was like being an Iowa football fan.