He has to go to a team that he fits. He fits the Heat. It would be really difficult for any PG to be worse than what the Heat have had in the postseason. Like I said, the East has nothing for PG play so they were able to hide it.
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He has to go to a team that he fits. He fits the Heat. It would be really difficult for any PG to be worse than what the Heat have had in the postseason. Like I said, the East has nothing for PG play so they were able to hide it.
Right, and they have clearly evolved over those four years too. Their offense was not good in that first year, basically Wade and LeBron alternating driving the ball. They reinvented the offense the following year with a smaller lineup and Bosh at the five, their small lineups have put unbelievable offense efficiency ratings each year, they run a lot of really creative offensive sets. Defensively, no one else in the league was running their extreme trapping defense, it worked great but as their core guys have gotten older he's adjusted and you see them dropping under picks a lot more now.
cant believe I'm replying to this but coaches off the top of my head Im quite confident could avoid getting blown out at home in the finals twice in a row with lbj and heat at their disposal:
pop
rivers
thibs
carlisle
hornacek
vogel
joerger
dantoni
brooks
vangundy
stevens
kidd
wait and see: Kerr, Vaughn, Fisher
college coaches frequently offered: cal, Hoiball, Ollie, izzo
several others but who knows if they're retired for good
I would actually blame more of this on Riley. He drafted crap when he had a chance to get some solid talent and he's put together a roster of carbon copies of players. You have Lewis and Allen. You have COle and Chalmers. You have Anderson and Haslem. He has marginal interior defense players and absolutely awful perimeter defense players outside of LeBron. Go get a defensive specialist somewhere. I don't care if it's inside or outside. Birdman is fine and I really like watching him play because he goes hard but he's not great. Get someone to protect LeBron. That's where Pippen was so valuable and it's why Leonard is so valuable. They keep their offensive studs from having to constantly guard the best perimeter players on the other team. LeBron has no protection right now and neither does Bosh. Spoelstra should have been playing Haslem to protect Bosh offensively but he didn't. He played Birdman who you basically don't even have to guard.
Yeah, you probably shouldn't have replied that's a terrible list, but it's been a long two plus years for Bulls fans, lots of hate can build up over that time, so go ahead and enjoy it and let it out today.
Teams don't guard Haslem and he kills them when he is on the floor at this point in his career. Four years ago he was great fit, but this past postseason, Miami has been severely outscored whenever he is on the floor. That's why they turned to Rashard Lewis against Indy. Chalmers and Cole not producing this series is compounding the decision to amnesty Mike Miller before the year starting and the Beasley signing. I think Miami was confident they could fit him into the rotation as another scoring wing and it just didn't work out. Miami's team defense has been good enough that they could hang in there until the 4th when throwing LeBron on Parker, this year it's not as good and Wade has just been terrible on that end in the Finals.
Their defense is awful. It's not just worse, it's awful. Not a single person can play perimeter defense except LeBron.
For those wondering, teams had no restrictions on how much they paid their own free agents. But the 1995-96 team, MJ was only making $3.85mil
You changed my mind. Every coach on the planet would have got blown out twice in a row at home by San Antonio even with a team good enough to make the finals including the best player in the world producing at a high level. Thanks for showing me the light.
Your guy is getting outcoached handily. If LeBron were laying an egg I'd give spo a pass but he's not. LeBron is producing, the games were at home, there is talent around him...a better coach could at least have made these two competitive home losses instead of two home blowouts.
Yeah...you're hypothetical reasoning is much, much better. Obviously, all those coaches would have won the East four years in a row and at least two titles. There's no way a Spoelstra coached team could ever beat a Popovich coached team in a playoff series. You also forgot to add Randy Whitman to your list, if Thibs is on there, you have to have Whitman too.
You act as if all these coaches have had Spo's roster of the past 4 seasons. Only a moron could think Spoelstra is doing a great job the past two games and not being outmatched to a great degree. It's not like the Spurs are squeaking past them at home, they're curb stomping them in Miami.
So your entire argument that Spoelstra is a below average NBA coach is based on the last two games?
I don't really think you can defend ANYONE's coaching job if they get blown out like this in consecutive games, but let's not act like Miami has some super team this year. They have the best player in the game but he's surrounded by: an over-the-hill Wade he's good maybe once every 3 games, an inconsistent Bosh, Mario Chalmers who apparently forgot how to play basketball, a beat-up Birdman, zombie Ray Allen, zombie Shane Battier, zombie Rashard Lewis, zombie Udonis Haslem.
Obviously Duncan and Ginobli are old, but top-to-bottom San Antonio has a better, younger roster than the Heat, and I don't think it's all that close.
Didn't respond to this earlier but I think Kukoc, Harper and Kerr/Longley are significantly better than Allen, Lewis?, Chalmers? I don't even know who to put as the fifth and sixth best Heat players at this point. Kukoc was the fourth best guy on the Bulls and he put up 19/7/5 the year after Jordan left, Harper was a great defender who would go on to start for two Laker championship teams, Longley was at least as good as Birdman or Haslem and Kerr was one of the best shooters ever. I think the Bulls have a pretty significant advantage at the 4-6 guys on their roster, not sure how you can argue that the Heat are better there. When they had Miller and a younger, healthier Battier it would have been close, but it's not close with this year's roster.
Yes. Coaching is a big reason these last two games have been home blowout-nature losses for Miami. Certainly more than roster issues.
It was also part of the reason they lost the first finals with the 3 free agent signings.
I wouldn't even be holding them to this standard if you and others didn't insist on comparing them to perhaps the most dominant run in basketball history. People were talking about this team vs. the Bulls two threepeats...the most obvious differences are easily Jackson vs. Spoelstra and Jordan is the greatest playoff basketball player of all time while LeBron is the best overall player of the past decade but not easily the best playoff performer of all time.
Basic stuff here.
Harper and Rodman were incredibly skilled players to be the 3rd and 4th best players on the Bulls second threepeat. There's a reason their most historic team achievements came in the second run. Their roster on the first three championships outside of Jordan/LeBron was no better than the Heat's right now, offensively it was much worse...but that's masked when you have the best clutch scorer ever. Were you even alive for these? Seriously I need to know if you even watched these early 90s games or if this is like me talking to someone about Babe Ruth's hitting techniques.
