Exactly! I don't know how many times I said this on Saturday. Meyer would never try to make a play. We need someone like Daniel or Reesing who, when things aren't there is willing to scramble or buy time to make a play.
Next year's quarterback situation
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Exactly! I don't know how many times I said this on Saturday. Meyer would never try to make a play. We need someone like Daniel or Reesing who, when things aren't there is willing to scramble or buy time to make a play.
I would much rather have Meyer throwing them out of bounds than throwing interceptions... no, those two things aren't mutually exclusive, but one of his biggest flaws was the inexplicable pass that gets picked off, and that kills a team. If he has to throw it out of bounds to avoid that, so be it.
Maybe we need recievers who can get open, and I am not talking about slants and 5 yard outs. I would bet if he doesn't throw the ball away on many of those times he gets sacked or would through a Int. Wherever the problem is we through the ball away too much.
It may be the receivers not getting open or it may be the play calling. Didn't it seem like there was rarely a throw to the middle of the field for a short gain to pick up a first down, wheres Austin Flynn when you need him. I would bet 90% of our passes went for a quick out, a deep pass down the sideline, or a throw behind the line or scrimmage, don't even get me started on the behind the line of scrimmage plays.
With all the INT's, and pick sixes that myer threw early in the season the throw away passes didnt bother me down the stretch.
The clones all but abandoned the QB draw. That bothered me. It was used vs Iowa and that was all i can remember. myer isnt Wallace, but the guy could run some. Spread em out and let him go.
The clones all but abandoned the QB draw. That bothered me. It was used vs Iowa and that was all i can remember. myer isnt Wallace, but the guy could run some. Spread em out and let him go.
The way I see it -
There's going to be a 4-way competition for starting QB (obviously).
Arnaud's going to win it by a long shot (as, of the 4 QBs, he's gotten all the relevant snaps and game experience this year).
Bates is going to be treated the way Seattle treats Seneca Wallace - officially the backup QB but too valuable to just let sit on the sidelines
Tiller's going to be moved - if not this year, next - the guy's too much of a stud to just let his skills go to waste by being a backup QB.
Jordan's going to be redshirted this coming year to learn the system with no pressure and then be Arnaud's backup for the two years following, then be handed the reigns for the following two years, assuming Chizik doesn't recruit yet another QB that beats Jordan out along the line.
That's just how I see this thing shaping up. Wow, this is a nice problem to have (for once :wink
I think you are assuming way too much about these kids willingness to change positions. Not everyone is Austin Flynn. If Tiller or Bates have the skills to be D1 QBs, but can't win the starting position, it seems fairly likely they will transfer. The other point is even if AA wins the starting spot next year, it doesn't guarantee it for him through graduation. One or both of Bates and Tiller could catch up, especially if they bring another dimension with their legs.
If Chizik can get Johnny Unitas to show up.....we need to quadruple his salary!!! :wink:
I don't know if it was Meyer or the plays or the coaches but I am sick of all the balls pitched out of bounds. Half of all Brett's sideline passes down field were out of bounds by 10 yards. What really bothers me is that the KU QB was all banged up and still did a better job of scrambling than Brett. How many times this year did we see the other team's QB scramble away from pressure and complete a pass? Lots. How many times did Brett do this? Maybe twice? A better OL will help the next QB, but I still look for a guy that can make a play under pressure.
The Typical "Tell it Like it Is Take" the Gene Way:
I am not sure Austin is the total answer. He can throw deep, but he has thrown into a crowd, he has not run as well as expected in my book. He looked no worse than Bret. Yet we see these little Reesings and Colt McCoys doing great things with less athletic ability. I see Bates and Tiller and Jordan all having shots at end of next year. Austin may have more accuracy on deep throw. He did look odff defenders coupl;e of times. Has a long way to grow.
Frankly, we need better qb play than Austin or Bret showed us for us to go the next tier. QB is the most important position in sports to make or break a team.
I am not sure Austin is the total answer. He can throw deep, but he has thrown into a crowd, he has not run as well as expected in my book. He looked no worse than Bret. Yet we see these little Reesings and Colt McCoys doing great things with less athletic ability. I see Bates and Tiller and Jordan all having shots at end of next year. Austin may have more accuracy on deep throw. He did look odff defenders coupl;e of times. Has a long way to grow.
Frankly, we need better qb play than Austin or Bret showed us for us to go the next tier. QB is the most important position in sports to make or break a team.
I didn't realize Mean Gene could bring the dead back to life. If he can then the guy needs more than a raise.
I also get the feeling that Austen has some work to do before he is the starting QB next year. This feeling is based on what I've seen on the field and comments I've heard Gene make. A couple weeks ago Gene was asked about Austen and he said something like "Austen and Brett are basically the same QB. They do a lot of the same things well".
Hopefully Austen can show us he has the same competitive fire as a McCoy, Reesing or Daniel... that's just as important as the ability to throw a 50-yard strike.
I still think that Bates or Tiller give us a playmaking ability at QB that Arnaud doesn't give. When the pocket breaks down (which at ISU happens every other play), Bates or Tiller would be able to use their 4.5 speed to make plays. They also make the shotgun read play a little more believable because they can make big plays on a keeper. I'm not sure they compare with Arnaud in passing ability however.
If you are going to quote the coach, give the whole coach. He also followed it up by saying there are things they do differently. He specifically said Arnaud throws the deep ball better, and is a more physical runner.
