"New Look" Big XII MBB next year

[CYUL8R]

Just got to thinking about it now that the coaching drama is coming to a close and we can actually start to look forward to this season. Lots of changes coming this year:

- New shot clock, restricted arc and timeout rules from NCAA (faster tempo - ISU-ball for all)
- Texas has a new coach in Shaka Smart
- ISU has a new coach in Steve Prohm
- K-State has a lame duck coach and no team (Weber is gone next year, IMHO)

Lots of new faces on the recruiting side as well - should be a great and entertaining season. Given all of this, who wins the Big XII next year?

I'm going with:
ISU (Reg Season and Conference Champs)
Kansas
Oklahoma
Baylor
WV
Texas
TCU
OSU
TTech
Kansas State

 

[Gunnerclone]

That's not happening. KU is now firmly the favorite once again for everything.

 

[Dandy]

Never discount Bill Self. They're the favorites every pre-season until they finally break their streak.

 

[tejasclone]

Mr. Prohm will achieve insta-god status if he wins the Big 12 regular season and conference tourney title in Year 1.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Mr. Prohm will achieve insta-god status if he wins the Big 12 regular season and conference tourney title in Year 1.

Nah, I don't think so. Tim Floyd and Larry Eustachy aren't revered as gods at ISU. Now, if Prohm takes ISU to the Final Four in year one...

 

[CYUL8R]

That's not happening. KU is now firmly the favorite once again for everything.

They may be the favorite but are they a consensus preseason top-10 team? They don't have the seniors that we do, sure they have a great coach and excellent recruits but you don't think ISU has the horses to beat them and beat them HARD?

 

[Gunnerclone]

They may be the favorite but are they a consensus preseason top-10 team? They don't have the seniors that we do, sure they have a great coach and excellent recruits but you don't think ISU has the horses to beat them and beat them HARD?

This is about as veteran of a team as you can get at KU.

 

[JRE1975]

Kansas has to be the favorite after the recruiting class he ended up with this year. While we were watching our coaching search play out I thought I saw where he got a top 25 guard added to the list. Not sure of the name.

 

[kentkel]

Kansas has to be the favorite after the recruiting class he ended up with this year. While we were watching our coaching search play out I thought I saw where he got a top 25 guard added to the list. Not sure of the name.

LaGerald Vick

 

[swarthmoreCY]

New look Big 12? What is new about KU winning the title? Next year KU will win the conference by a wide margin imo.

While our recruiting was absolutely tanked by Hoiberg and Abdelmassih, KU added several players we could only dream of landing to a team that was already better than ISU.

We overachieved a bit last year, lost Hogue and did not add any difference makers.

 

[RustShack]

This might sound crazy because he was on the team last year, but I think Nader will be a difference maker. Also we add Cooke and Burton.

 

[Cydkar]

I'll bet anyone that KU wins it again. I sense a trend.

 

[Sigmapolis]

It'll come down to just random nonsense again, just like it did last year.

We don't do any two of these things...

(*) let Baylor drain threes on us for five minutes straight in Hilton

(*) LOSE TO ******* TEXAS TECH (in Lubbock, but still)

(*) throw the ball away at the end of the game against K-State

(*) not have Georges miss the winner at Baylor/pass it out to BDJ for a better look/not have them score that last basket/have the ref actually call the push-off on Monte

...and we win the conference outright.

We'll be in that position again. So will OU, in their own ways. Just gotta do it this time.

 

[Gunnerclone]

New look Big 12? What is new about KU winning the title? Next year KU will win the conference by a wide margin imo.

While our recruiting was absolutely tanked by Hoiberg and Abdelmassih, KU added several players we could only dream of landing to a team that was already better than ISU.

We overachieved a bit last year, lost Hogue and did not add any difference makers.

I'm not sleeping on Deonte. Plus full year of McKay not coming off 1 1/2 years without competitive ball.

 

[swarthmoreCY]

I'm not sleeping on Deonte. Plus full year of McKay not coming off 1 1/2 years without competitive ball.

Yes, certainly reasons to be optimistic about those two improving. Same with Nader. I am high on Cooke, assuming the injuries did not derail his improvement from his freshman year.

But in the context of a "new Big 12" KU has several returning guys for which hopes for improvement are just as valid, add a great class, and were already better.

 

[allfourcy]

Hate to say it, but KU has to be the favorite. As much as I love our team, KU has three 5-star players. And worst yet, none of the three may even start. Now, let's go knock 'em off. I wonder if Prohm has any idea about the intensity of the KU/ISU rivalry?

 

[CYUL8R]

Hate to say it, but KU has to be the favorite. As much as I love our team, KU has three 5-star players. And worst yet, none of the three may even start. Now, let's go knock 'em off. I wonder if Prohm has any idea about the intensity of the KU/ISU rivalry?

When you get bonuses in your contract for beating KU, yes I think he'll be aware.

NOTE: just basing this off of Fred's contract. We don't know Prohm's yet but I'm guessing it's similar.

 

[Gnomeborg]

New look Big 12? What is new about KU winning the title? Next year KU will win the conference by a wide margin imo.

While our recruiting was absolutely tanked by Hoiberg and Abdelmassih, KU added several players we could only dream of landing to a team that was already better than ISU.

We overachieved a bit last year, lost Hogue and did not add any difference makers.