What were our 3 point attempts last night? 4 of 24? Many of Solomon''s points came from 6ft 8ft even 10ft range. And, although we lost for many reasons, when it came to crunch time it was allowing offensive rebounds and 2nd/3rd chance points. Why can't we play Solomon at the 4 and George at the 5? Better 3 point opportunities arise from moving the ball in and out.
Never a Plan B
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I was thinking about this. A big lineup for nights when the 3's wont fall. Then, if 3's begin to fall you can always switch back.
SDSU's guards would have been put on even more of a show if ISU went totally big.
It's not real clear what ISU's plan is as they're not particularly strong at either right now.
Solo's offense was great but in the long run it's kind of fools gold, playing through him kills ball movement. Even when we were closing the gap last night, most possessions were just 4 guys standing around watching him. He made no passes out of the post and if he missed, that was our only shot. A lot of those possessions, only 2 people even touched the ball. It's really hard for shooters to get in to a rhythm when you play like this. You won't win in CBB in 2020 playing like this.
Really, they should have just been able to play 5 out on offense and drive on score on those guys at will. Problem with a lot of the early threes were they weren't good looks and Johnson shouldn't be shooting many threes. His shot is so ugly.
Totally agree. Solomon had to take things into his own hands. BUT if we actually practiced what to do, and have a Plan B offense, this could change. Solomon's very successful freshman year, he played the 4 spot
That stretch where we were just clanging everything and they were smooth stroking threes killed a lot of my spirit last night. Prohm and staff either don’t have eyes for shooters or are actively not trying to get any shooters. No one on this team has a sweet stroke.
The guys with the best looking shots on the team are probably Harris and Jackson. But yeah, Bolton's shot is weird, Johnson's is ugly, JCL isn't terrible but he takes a lot of bad shots. He could be a 35% guy probably if he was selective in the threes he took instead of taking almost 9 a game so far. Kind of defeats the purpose of playing small ball if you don't have a good shooting team.
OK, I am back. After 6 months off the board due to stupid Covid arguments, this thread got me back.
(channel inner Jim Mora)
PLAN B?!?
PLAN B?!?
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PLAN B?!?
Here is Plan A:
CSP is a great recruiter, would love to have him as an assistant. But as a head coach he is hopelessly out of his depth.
(channel inner Jim Mora)
PLAN B?!?
PLAN B?!?
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PLAN B?!?
Here is Plan A:
- poor shot selection
- bad spacing and little passing
- unplanned situational basketball
- zero rebounding
CSP is a great recruiter, would love to have him as an assistant. But as a head coach he is hopelessly out of his depth.
McDermotts a good coach. I don’t like his system but he’s proven it works at a high level. His recruiting just sucked balls while he was here.
Did his recruiting really suck though? Looking back it was pretty good. He just had issues keeping those good players from transferring. He ended up having 3 or 4 NBA guys on his rosters in 4 years. The problem wasn’t recruiting, it was retaining.
Agree,and that's what is frustrating! Try something else. Throwing up three pointers is not am offense. Every player mostly standing in the same spot, is not an offense.
Same old same old
Steve is a great guy, but don’t tell me he should be given a pass because some of his guys left early to the NBA. The sloppiness of the play, the inability to execute in the half court (which has been a problem literally since he got here even with the Niang team), poor shot selection, that all comes down to coaching. If they are coached loosely in practice they will play loosely in the game. I don’t think it’s a coincidence they are averaging over 13 turnovers a game against what should be inferior competition. He will probably get a grace year due to Covid, but he has never shown he can right the ship once it’s started to go down.
CycloneErik
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I think this is one of Prohm's biggest weaknesses. He is slow to change or adapt both in game and over the season.
The results at ISU were the same, but Too Tall won quite a bit at UNI and at Creighton. He is a proven successful head coach.
His style didn't work at ISU though. That hard-ass, micromanaging style works with shoulder-chippers but not so much with blue-chippers. He could not or would not adjust his style.
This is correct, if we have to play through Solo, we will lose a record % of our games.
He changed his style at Creighton and has recruited some bluechippers. He is a different coach now.
A big lineup could work great if you had big guys that could pass the ball and score in the post consistently. Solomon is OK in the post. Most of his points still come from mid-range jumpers and dump off passes though. Condit hasn't shown much ability to score on post ups. Neither have shown they can both play in the post and work off each-other. So, if we play them both, what do they do?
In this day and age you need to be able to shoot the 3 to win consistently. That's just how it is. 24 three point attempts is not excessive. Just need to make them. I think the larger problem by far is defense, though. Specifically perimeter defense. SDSU guards were not quick, yet they pretty much got by their defender any time they wanted. Our defenders either jump on shot fakes, close out too hard, are late on help/switches, or just flat out get lazy and get caught "napping" constantly. Shots weren't falling from 3 last night, but we still shot 48.3% overall. That's not bad. Our % inside the arc was excellent.
Just like last year, our offense isn't great, but it's not bad. Our defense & rebounding is atrocious. We still don't have anyone that is tenacious going after loose balls and rebounds. Dubar seems to be the best, but his playing time is limited.
In this day and age you need to be able to shoot the 3 to win consistently. That's just how it is. 24 three point attempts is not excessive. Just need to make them. I think the larger problem by far is defense, though. Specifically perimeter defense. SDSU guards were not quick, yet they pretty much got by their defender any time they wanted. Our defenders either jump on shot fakes, close out too hard, are late on help/switches, or just flat out get lazy and get caught "napping" constantly. Shots weren't falling from 3 last night, but we still shot 48.3% overall. That's not bad. Our % inside the arc was excellent.
Just like last year, our offense isn't great, but it's not bad. Our defense & rebounding is atrocious. We still don't have anyone that is tenacious going after loose balls and rebounds. Dubar seems to be the best, but his playing time is limited.
