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scyclonekid

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With a new basketball arena and their football program on the rise, Bowlsby better get on the phone and beg them to join our conference.
 

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With a new basketball arena and their football program on the rise, Bowlsby better get on the phone and beg them to join our conference.

No way. Texas and OU wouldnt want to share B12 titles with another powerhouse. It would be like binging Bama or Oregon to the conference, it wouldnt even be fair for the rest of us. :plaugh:
 

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NDSU soon to be 3 wins vs big12 in football
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in basketball tourney
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in softball super regional
NDSU wrestling top 20 ranking in ncaa
We already belong.
 

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NDSU soon to be 3 wins vs big12 in football
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in basketball tourney
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in softball super regional
NDSU wrestling top 20 ranking in ncaa
We already belong.

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This is one of the things that perplexes me with respect to Bison posters. Carson Wentz has never started a game in his career yet many claim him to be better than Jensen and feel secure in this. One of our returning quarterbacks started eight games last season while the other started four, and Bison fans believe we have a quarterback problem. Both of our QBs have run a variation of the spread offense ever since they were in high school. One is a red shirt junior, the other a redshirt sophomore. They are nearly bookends in stature. One seems to be better with the run, the other may have an edge with the pass. People just cannot seem to grasp the notion that to detect some superior ability of one over the other is a difficult task. It's reported that their team mates are equally confident in either.

In an earlier post you mentioned the graduation of three offensive linemen. I assume these to be Turner, Colville and Gimmestad. Now I understand Johnson is lost for the season due to injury to go along with also graduated Jensen, Smith and Ojuri. This is seems to me to be a hugh loss of quality talent few teams are prepared to overcome. Though it's claimed that replacements have much game experience, but I have to ask what is the value of that experience when it came while you were hanging 50 points on nearly every opponent last year

As a Bison fan, I will not disagree with you. I have not seen Wentz play in game, when it matters yet. The local media has really hyped him up, but noone has seen him play mnay meaningful downs. He came in a few times last year in mop-up duty, and atleast one series where Brock (graduated QB) got hurt. I personally am not going into this with as much confidence as everyone else. I just hope the little in-game experiance is enough so he doesnt come out erratic the first few series and we go 3 and out and he has 0 confidence the rest of the game.

I think the parts that hurt the most are going to be on both the O & D lines, and we are going to find out how big of a loss Billy Turner really was. Joe Heag will be the new starting Tackle. He is being switched from guard to tackle since he has 2 years of playing experiance.

Yes, they have game experiance.. and again I cant really disagree with you. When you come in, in the fourth quarter and your opponents have played 3 quarters and your fresh.. you should be able to push them around. I do think it did help though that they have been in the games, and shouldn't get those jitters.

Now that we talked about 3 of what I think are questions for NDSU, I also am curious about how a new nickel back is going to handle things. I cant lie, your receiving corps looks (on paper) great. If I am not mistaking though, one of the taller recievers is a freshman also. So, that could also be a question mark for you guys as he has not much game experiene. Your tight end will probably be matched up, against a LB. LB is really a postion of strength for NDSU, as they all return. Also, safety is another position of strength. We return both Colten Heagle and Dudzick. Both guys are fast and hit like Semi trucks.

I cant wait, according your counter on the page.. 15days 2hrs 26 mins!!
 
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NDSU soon to be 3 wins vs big12 in football
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in basketball tourney
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in softball super regional
NDSU wrestling top 20 ranking in ncaa
We already belong.

Can't tell if you are serious or not.

0/10 if troll
1/10 if you are seriously this dumb, gave me a good chuckle.

I would much rather have BYU in the Big 12 than NDSU.
 

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As a Bison fan, I will not disagree with you. I have not seen Wentz play in game, when it matters yet. The local media has really hyped him up, but noone has seen him play mnay meaningful downs. He came in a few times last year in mop-up duty, and atleast one series where Brock (graduated QB) got hurt. I personally am not going into this with as much confidence as everyone else. I just hope the little in-game experiance is enough so he doesnt come out erratic the first few series and we go 3 and out and he has 0 confidence the rest of the game.

I think the parts that hurt the most are going to be on both the O & D lines, and we are going to find out how big of a loss Billy Turner really was. Joe Heag will be the new starting Tackle. He is being switched from guard to tackle since he has 2 years of playing experiance.

Yes, they have game experiance.. and again I cant really disagree with you. When you come in, in the fourth quarter and your opponents have played 3 quarters and your fresh.. you should be able to push them around. I do think it did help though that they have been in the games, and shouldn't get those jitters.

Now that we talked about 3 of what I think are questions for NDSU, I also am curious about how a new nickel back is going to handle things. I cant lie, your receiving corps looks (on paper) great. If I am not mistaking though, one of the taller recievers is a freshman also. So, that could also be a question mark for you guys as he has not much game experiene. Your tight end will probably be matched up, against a LB. LB is really a postion of strength for NDSU, as they all return. Also, safety is another position of strength. We return both Colten Heagle and Dudzick. Both guys are fast and hit like Semi trucks.

I cant wait, according your counter on the page.. 15days 2hrs 26 mins!!
Thank you for using common sense! tumblr_mkvnfgvf081rt89d7o1_500.gif
 

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NDSU soon to be 3 wins vs big12 in football
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in basketball tourney
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in softball super regional
NDSU wrestling top 20 ranking in ncaa
We already belong.

No. You did not just drop the Softball Super Regional bomb, did you?
What's next, beating TuCow in the shuffleboard National Qualifier?
 

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As a Bison fan, I will not disagree with you. I have not seen Wentz play in game, when it matters yet. The local media has really hyped him up, but noone has seen him play mnay meaningful downs. He came in a few times last year in mop-up duty, and atleast one series where Brock (graduated QB) got hurt. I personally am not going into this with as much confidence as everyone else. I just hope the little in-game experiance is enough so he doesnt come out erratic the first few series and we go 3 and out and he has 0 confidence the rest of the game.

I think the parts that hurt the most are going to be on both the O & D lines, and we are going to find out how big of a loss Billy Turner really was. Joe Heag will be the new starting Tackle. He is being switched from guard to tackle since he has 2 years of playing experiance.

Yes, they have game experiance.. and again I cant really disagree with you. When you come in, in the fourth quarter and your opponents have played 3 quarters and your fresh.. you should be able to push them around. I do think it did help though that they have been in the games, and shouldn't get those jitters.

Now that we talked about 3 of what I think are questions for NDSU, I also am curious about how a new nickel back is going to handle things. I cant lie, your receiving corps looks (on paper) great. If I am not mistaking though, one of the taller recievers is a freshman also. So, that could also be a question mark for you guys as he has not much game experiene. Your tight end will probably be matched up, against a LB. LB is really a postion of strength for NDSU, as they all return. Also, safety is another position of strength. We return both Colten Heagle and Dudzick. Both guys are fast and hit like Semi trucks.

I cant wait, according your counter on the page.. 15days 2hrs 26 mins!!

Lazard has the advantage on Wentz when it comes to nerves. Lazard's reqruitment was nationally-hyped and he played in the Army Bowl which was televised. He'll be aight.
 

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NDSU soon to be 3 wins vs big12 in football
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in basketball tourney
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in softball super regional
NDSU wrestling top 20 ranking in ncaa
We already belong.
Those wins against Kansas are really impressive. Nobody was beating Kansas in football for the last 6 years.
 

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NDSU soon to be 3 wins vs big12 in football
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in basketball tourney
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in softball super regional
NDSU wrestling top 20 ranking in ncaa
We already belong.


UND smoked NDSU in basketball. Using Biso logic The Sioux are ready for big time. We should invite the Sioux to the Big 12. UND beat NDSU, NDSU beat OU, OU beat other Big 12 teams, therefore UND would be Big 12 and Summit champs. Why settle for the Biso when we can get the real star of North Dakota.
 

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NDSU soon to be 3 wins vs big12 in football ...or soon to be 2-2 with two loses to ISU
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in basketball tourney ...don't forget your loss to Kansas in the NCAA Tournament 5 years ago
NDSU beats Big 12 Oklahoma in softball super regional ...its softball and it happened in 2009. Funny, you don't claim the loss to KU in the NCAA Tournament in 2009 or the loss to ISU in football in 2009, but you claim a win over Oklahoma in softball. Real cool.
NDSU wrestling top 20 ranking in ncaa ...Iowa, ISU, and UNI all finished higher than NDSU in the final team rankings and NDSU was not in the Top 20 in the final rankings
We already belong.
 

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No ****.

IF there is an FCS school that can smack talk ISU it would be UNI.

And you do belong PondSteer. You do belong - but not here. Someplace very disturbing.
 

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As a Bison fan, I will not disagree with you. I have not seen Wentz play in game, when it matters yet. The local media has really hyped him up, but noone has seen him play mnay meaningful downs. He came in a few times last year in mop-up duty, and atleast one series where Brock (graduated QB) got hurt. I personally am not going into this with as much confidence as everyone else. I just hope the little in-game experiance is enough so he doesnt come out erratic the first few series and we go 3 and out and he has 0 confidence the rest of the game.

I think the parts that hurt the most are going to be on both the O & D lines, and we are going to find out how big of a loss Billy Turner really was. Joe Heag will be the new starting Tackle. He is being switched from guard to tackle since he has 2 years of playing experiance.

Yes, they have game experiance.. and again I cant really disagree with you. When you come in, in the fourth quarter and your opponents have played 3 quarters and your fresh.. you should be able to push them around. I do think it did help though that they have been in the games, and shouldn't get those jitters.

Now that we talked about 3 of what I think are questions for NDSU, I also am curious about how a new nickel back is going to handle things. I cant lie, your receiving corps looks (on paper) great. If I am not mistaking though, one of the taller recievers is a freshman also. So, that could also be a question mark for you guys as he has not much game experiene. Your tight end will probably be matched up, against a LB. LB is really a postion of strength for NDSU, as they all return. Also, safety is another position of strength. We return both Colten Heagle and Dudzick. Both guys are fast and hit like Semi trucks.

I cant wait, according your counter on the page.. 15days 2hrs 26 mins!!

That tall Freshman you refer to must be Allen Lazzard. He is not a starter. Not even sure if he is really on the 2-deep. But we are told he will play this year in all likelihood. He was a 4-star recruit and one of the top WR recruits in the nation last year. We also have a RS FR transfer listed on our 2-deep in D'Vario Montgomery who is also very good sized with good speed and great hands. Another 4-star recruit who was one of the top WR recruits in the nation as well. EJ Bibbs is the best tight end in the Big 12 and arguably in the nation. A future pro. Not sure how any team can really match up with him. Bundrage returns and is one of the top 5 receivers in the Big 12. The receivers on our 2-deep have a lot of starting experience and game experience. Lazzard is not being counted on at this time but his immense talent suggests that he will get to play some as the season unfolds. So it really is not from a "need" standpoint that he is going to play.

On Offensive Line we were decimated by injuries last year and it hurt us bad. We never started the same Offensive Line for 2 consecutive games until the 10th game of the season. So we played a lot of youngsters who got game experience. Now we have like 7 guys who have started games competing for 5 spots. And that does not include another 4-star RS Fr. Jake Campos.

Our biggest question marks are the Defensive Line and also the safeties. The Defensive Ends should be okay as we return Honorable Mention All Big 12 Cory Morrissey and others. Safeties are two athletic RS Freshmen who are said to have a higher ceiling than our departed safeties. But they are inexperienced. At the interior DL positions we return a starter at NG who is an average player but is now a 5th year senior. And a RS Sophomore who actually had beaten out Jensen at NG is going to slide to the DT position and start. Backing him up is a RS Freshman Robby Garcia. And another RS Freshman Vernell Trent will be in the rotation as well. Pretty green but has some talent. Cousin and Jensen have decent size at around 300 lbs. While Garcia and Trent are a bit smaller at 280 lbs. or so. So we are a bit of an unknown on the DL interior as youngsters can have growing pains.

On Offense, most fans expect to see a lot of improvement and are enthused about new OC Mark Mangino. We return experience and talent and with his offensive mind we expect to see improvement. Also the new coaches that Mangino brought on board with him in Blaney and Tommy Mangino have great infectious attitudes. Along with Lou Ayeni and Todd Sturdy and others we have a great staff. We will see how that translates into results.

Much has been written about our dismal 3-9 season of a year ago. Very disappointing. But aside from a couple blowout losses to the likes of Baylor and another game or two, we had some pretty close losses. Losses that might have been wins had we just executed another play here or there.

So we have optimism for the coming season. At the same time we understand that the game is played on the field. Inexperienced and unknown players can be anything you can imagine them to be. Until you play you don't really know. The past is in the past. What happened last year or several years ago makes little difference to what is happening today. The game is played on the field.
 

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As a Bison fan, I will not disagree with you. I have not seen Wentz play in game, when it matters yet. The local media has really hyped him up, but noone has seen him play mnay meaningful downs. He came in a few times last year in mop-up duty, and atleast one series where Brock (graduated QB) got hurt. I personally am not going into this with as much confidence as everyone else. I just hope the little in-game experiance is enough so he doesnt come out erratic the first few series and we go 3 and out and he has 0 confidence the rest of the game.

I think the parts that hurt the most are going to be on both the O & D lines, and we are going to find out how big of a loss Billy Turner really was. Joe Heag will be the new starting Tackle. He is being switched from guard to tackle since he has 2 years of playing experiance.

Yes, they have game experiance.. and again I cant really disagree with you. When you come in, in the fourth quarter and your opponents have played 3 quarters and your fresh.. you should be able to push them around. I do think it did help though that they have been in the games, and shouldn't get those jitters.

Now that we talked about 3 of what I think are questions for NDSU, I also am curious about how a new nickel back is going to handle things. I cant lie, your receiving corps looks (on paper) great. If I am not mistaking though, one of the taller recievers is a freshman also. So, that could also be a question mark for you guys as he has not much game experiene. Your tight end will probably be matched up, against a LB. LB is really a postion of strength for NDSU, as they all return. Also, safety is another position of strength. We return both Colten Heagle and Dudzick. Both guys are fast and hit like Semi trucks.

I cant wait, according your counter on the page.. 15days 2hrs 26 mins!!

Thank you for your response. I assume the receiver to whom you refer is a true freshman. He's a legacy kid who was highly ranked out of high school. He has all the tools, but those who expect him to perform like an upperclassman I believe have their expectations set rather high.

I am aware of the two exceptionally talented safeties. They will be challenging and probably very busy.
 

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As a Bison fan, I will not disagree with you. I have not seen Wentz play in game, when it matters yet. The local media has really hyped him up, but noone has seen him play mnay meaningful downs. He came in a few times last year in mop-up duty, and atleast one series where Brock (graduated QB) got hurt. I personally am not going into this with as much confidence as everyone else. I just hope the little in-game experiance is enough so he doesnt come out erratic the first few series and we go 3 and out and he has 0 confidence the rest of the game.

I think the parts that hurt the most are going to be on both the O & D lines, and we are going to find out how big of a loss Billy Turner really was. Joe Heag will be the new starting Tackle. He is being switched from guard to tackle since he has 2 years of playing experiance.

Yes, they have game experiance.. and again I cant really disagree with you. When you come in, in the fourth quarter and your opponents have played 3 quarters and your fresh.. you should be able to push them around. I do think it did help though that they have been in the games, and shouldn't get those jitters.

Now that we talked about 3 of what I think are questions for NDSU, I also am curious about how a new nickel back is going to handle things. I cant lie, your receiving corps looks (on paper) great. If I am not mistaking though, one of the taller recievers is a freshman also. So, that could also be a question mark for you guys as he has not much game experiene. Your tight end will probably be matched up, against a LB. LB is really a postion of strength for NDSU, as they all return. Also, safety is another position of strength. We return both Colten Heagle and Dudzick. Both guys are fast and hit like Semi trucks.

I cant wait, according your counter on the page.. 15days 2hrs 26 mins!!

This is an example of what this thread SHOULD have been. A very reasonable and balanced post by someone who is a fan of their team, but can still look at the variables with some objectivity. Kudos to you, sir. Both teams have a number of unknowns due to turnover on the teams and in the coaching staffs...and both teams may, potentially, have those unknowns turn out to be positives. That's essentially what will decide the outcome.

I WILL say that I think our advantage in returning so much on the Offensive Line, and having a very good receiving corps...could be the difference in the game. That, and the home field advantage. But I doubt anybody rational believes that NDSU is not capable of rising up and taking this game...you have a very strong program that knows how to win. And have done so against quality D1 teams.

But the fact remains that there IS a substantial difference between these divisions of football, and its going to be very hard for NDSU to overcome that on the 30th. Having done so in the past with a different staff and players doesn't mean a ton here...it helps a little...but the advantage still rests with Iowa State. Just my humble opinion.
 

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NDSU beat Oklahoma, who beat Oklahoma State, who beat Kansas, who beat a team that has a player now on the Milwaukee Bucks, who beat the New York Knicks, who beat the Miami Heat who had LeBron James, who is a star on team USA for the Olymics. Yep, this shows North Dakota State is good enough to be team USA at the 2016 summer olympics.
 
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