NCAA may "vacate" Memphis wins

[kg-cyclone]

Re: Memphis 3 Years Probation

Too bad the guy that really deserves the punishment (cough... Calipari... cough...) isn't going to be the one that suffers. Talk about a guy that knows when the hell to get out of Dodge...

That's just it...When he leaves; people stop getting paid. No reason to keep it a secret anymore.

 

[wonkadog]

Re: Memphis 3 Years Probation

What a complete greaseball.

 

[agcy68]

Re: Memphis 3 Years Probation

"Though hit with a failure-to-monitor charge, Memphis will not be penalized and will escape a postseason ban or loss of scholarships."

What would it take for Memphis to actually be penalized? I realize they havea to pay back their Final Four money, but give me a break. ISU has done less and got hit with more.

 

[garn91]

Re: Memphis 3 Years Probation

Too bad the guy that really deserves the punishment (cough... Calipari... cough...) isn't going to be the one that suffers. Talk about a guy that knows when the hell to get out of Dodge...

Any bets that in 2 or 3 years that this will be Kentucky facing the hammer from the NCAA?

 

[CB21]

Re: Memphis 3 Years Probation

Any bets that in 2 or 3 years that this will be Kentucky facing the hammer from the NCAA?

Wouldn't suprise me.

 

[tim_redd]

Re: Memphis 3 Years Probation

That's just it...When he leaves; people stop getting paid. No reason to keep it a secret anymore.

I've never thought of it like this before, but it makes perfect sense...

 

[Clone_12]

Re: Memphis 3 Years Probation

Why in the world Kentucky is even allowed to hire Calipari is beyond me...with the NCAA caring soo much about little situations like Lucca's, and making sure Lucca is punished. Why is a coach that is busted cheating at two different schools still allowed to coach?

Sure, Kentucky's time will probably come...but their fans will probably be able to enjoy final fours and conference titles before it does. What a travesty.

 

[mt85]

Is this a deterrent to cheating? My reaction is that you might as well cheat if this is the extent of the potential risk.

 

[jbhtexas]

Re: Calipari...

The guy is damaged goods. Kentucky's decision to hire him is really reminding me of what Indiana did when they hired Sampson.

You can bet the NCAA will be watching closely.

I think a significant difference here is that in the case of Sampson, Sampson himself was directly involved in the infractions (i.e. making the impermissible phone calls at both schools). In the Memphis case (and also perhaps at UMass), Calipari is involved by inference (i.e. he probably knew about the cheating and ignored or condoned it). It's a lot harder to conclusively prove the latter.

My inclination is that Kentucky will regret hiring Calipari...we'll see.

 

[kucyclone]

There has been some absolutely brilliant reading material on CatsPause today. This is a decent example - CatsPause.com - Message Boards -

Rose obviously knew how to cheat on his SAT's and be able to keep it hidden long enough for him to play a year. You can't blame Coach Cal for that. Camby was even more hard to know about.

I think Coach Cal just trusts his players to much for his own good. But how can you blame a good Christian for trusting his fellow man? It's in the bible and those are words we have to live by. Cal is an honest man and that's enough for me.

Some are blaming the Memphis Compliance Department, some are blaming Rose, some are blaming the NCAA and "The system." None, however, have pointed a finger at Calipari.

 

[BryceC]

Kentucky is too big of a school and program unless there are just blatant, crazy violations going on. Cal went someplace he knows he's safe.

 

[khess83]

According to the first article Rose failed to achieve an acceptable score 3 times before the alleged fraudulent score. Isn't 17 the magic score for collegiate athletes? In high school remember an outstanding athlete, with DI offers, at a near by school that continually scored a 9 on his ACT. That is pretty sad.

 

[Clone_12]

The NCAA needs a Roger Goodell, or someone that's ready to strike down on people that don't want to play by the rules.

Even if Kentucky does get in trouble under Calipari, it probably won't happen until after they've won conference titles, and made deep postseason runs...and by then, there is a good chance Calipari will be jumping somewhere else...possibly unscaved.

 

[MontyBurns]

If the NCAA really gave a damn, they would punish the coach and AD instead of or in addition to the school.

If Memphis cheating had meant Calipari would be banned from coaching - anywhere - for 5 years, he might have thought twice about doing it, instead of bailing for another job and leaving a mess behind. And if it meant their AD is fired, he would damn well know what is going on and stop it, instead of smiling and looking the other way.

 

[coachdags]

If the NCAA really gave a damn, they would punish the coach and AD instead of or in addition to the school.

If Memphis cheating had meant Calipari would be banned from coaching - anywhere - for 5 years, he might have thought twice about doing it, instead of bailing for another job and leaving a mess behind. And if it meant their AD is fired, he would damn well know what is going on and stop it, instead of smiling and looking the other way.

For a minute there Monty, I thought you were going to blame this on JP....:wink:

 

[cybsball20]

I think the NCAA would have punished Cal, they just couldn't find any way to tie him to the whole scandal...

 

[garn91]

Kentucky is too big of a school and program unless there are just blatant, crazy violations going on. Cal went someplace he knows he's safe.

That's what Kelvin Sampson thought of Indiana....

 

[CycloneErik]

If the NCAA really gave a damn, they would punish the coach and AD instead of or in addition to the school.

If Memphis cheating had meant Calipari would be banned from coaching - anywhere - for 5 years, he might have thought twice about doing it, instead of bailing for another job and leaving a mess behind. And if it meant their AD is fired, he would damn well know what is going on and stop it, instead of smiling and looking the other way.

This would be very good to see.

 

[MontyBurns]

I think the NCAA would have punished Cal, they just couldn't find any way to tie him to the whole scandal...

They shouldn't have to tie it to him. The way it should work is this: He is the coach, it happened under his watch, therefore he is responsible. The same applies to the AD. It would end the charade of boosters and people on the periphery of programs doing things that the coach and AD "don't know about". They are in charge and it's their job to know what is going on.

Punishing the school only, as the NCAA does, is absurd. From the fab 5 at Michigan to Kelvin Sampson, Memphis, and yes, even Tim Floyd -- the guilty coach walks away cleanly and usually makes more money at another job while the new coach and new players at his old school -- who had nothing to do with any scandal -- are the ones who get punished.