NCAA BASKETBALL CORRUPTION SCHEME

[isufbcurt]

So what would happen if the NCAA gave all recruits and players a 6 week period to come clean about any money received? During that time, any admitted violations does not go against your eligibility. After the 6 weeks, anything that comes out would result in a permanent ineligibility. Ultimately, I would think the NCAA is more interested in cleaning out the coaches and programs that do this rather than the athletes that took what was offered.

Would that help this process come along and allow the NCAA clean house rather than a year long trickle of rumors and charges?

If you fall for something like that you are a moron

 

[Cyclone.TV]

So what would happen if the NCAA gave all recruits and players a 6 week period to come clean about any money received? During that time, any admitted violations does not go against your eligibility. After the 6 weeks, anything that comes out would result in a permanent ineligibility. Ultimately, I would think the NCAA is more interested in cleaning out the coaches and programs that do this rather than the athletes that took what was offered.

Would that help this process come along and allow the NCAA clean house rather than a year long trickle of rumors and charges?

You aren't thinking about this the right way - this isn't up to the NCAA to decide how to punish the people in the wrong.

 

[CycloneWarning]

So what would happen if the NCAA gave all recruits and players a 6 week period to come clean about any money received? During that time, any admitted violations does not go against your eligibility. After the 6 weeks, anything that comes out would result in a permanent ineligibility. Ultimately, I would think the NCAA is more interested in cleaning out the coaches and programs that do this rather than the athletes that took what was offered.

Would that help this process come along and allow the NCAA clean house rather than a year long trickle of rumors and charges?

Not a terrible idea, but I don't think the FBI is going to be lacking for snitches. Grown men with families, facing prosecution and jail time, are going to tell anything they know.

Plus, if you are a kid and already have that $100,000 in cash, your first and last instinct is going to be to lay low and try to ride it out. A threat of ineligibility does not mean squat to high level players. They will just go to Europe for a year and then declare.

 

[LivntheCyLife]

The thing is about all of this is that you will NEVER EVER be able to stop the money especially when someone wants to give it away.

So basically this scandal won't change much until college athletics is overhauled. This system is trying to run like it did when you only saw college basketball(outside of the Blue Bloods) on TV was during March madness

I think the thing to watch with this scandal is what Addidas, Nike, and other shoe companies decide to do. At some point, being involved with a shady AAU system/college recruiting system just seems like it wouldn't be worth the risks for a large, multinational corporation.

Obviously it wouldn't clean up college athletics completely, but I do think the shoe thing has made basketball recruiting worse than almost anything else in college athletics.

 

[CycloneWarning]

Here's an idea. As ISU fans, let's file a class action lawsuit against Adidas and Nike for steering talent to corrupt schools like KU, depriving our hard-working program and fans a fair shot.

Multi-billion dollar companies might just decide to settle. Free Clonecones for life!

Who has Jackie Chiles number?

 

[Clonehomer]

You aren't thinking about this the right way - this isn't up to the NCAA to decide how to punish the people in the wrong.

Regardless of how the FBI investigation goes, the NCAA is going to have a huge PR problem related to this. It would be in their best interest to find out who's dirty and remove ties swiftly, before the FBI recommends charges.

Also, federal law /= NCAA rules. Just because the FBI isn't knocking on your door doesn't mean your clean. This would be an opportunity to take control back. This is assuming they're actually interested in doing so.

 

[mywayorcyway]

You aren't thinking about this the right way - this isn't up to the NCAA to decide how to punish the people in the wrong.

While the FBI is leading the charge on this and will be doling out real penalties, that doesn't mean there won't be repercussions at the NCAA level as well. The FBI is doing the NCAA's job for them, using tools the NCAA doesn't have.

The FBI laying the smack down doesn't mean the NCAA can't hand out their own punishments as well.

 

[CyCloned]

. This is assuming they're actually interested in doing so.[/QUOTE]

 

[Tre4ISU]

Whose strategic sense would answer your problem with his argument. It's not the best strategy for the asst. coaches getting fired.

I won't go any further, a cave thread would be more appropriate, but I'll say it's a long standing and troubling pattern. Worth analyzing in the least instead of dismissing off hand.

Uh, the guy in charge of the program. It's pretty common knowledge that the one guy who can't be connected to that stuff is the head coach. It's not a race issue. At the end of the day, these guys all willingly chose to do the things they got caught doing. It's not like they couldn't seek other jobs. These weren't guys without other options and most would have had great options outside of the place they got busted.

 

[FinalFourCy]

Also, federal law /= NCAA rules. Just because the FBI isn't knocking on your door doesn't mean your clean. This would be an opportunity to take control back. This is assuming they're actually interested in doing so.

True, now that the FBI has gotten the evidence that the NCAA never could, there are potentially going to be a lot of Cleveland States punished for KU's transgressions.

Only somewhat kidding. The FBI will charge a bunch of assistants, and maybe a couple head coaches, but we've already seen they're not really going after programs or universities in terms of future participation in the sport. Look at PSU individuals committing far worse crimes- the FBI doesn't care that PSU is in the Rose Bowl a few years after, that type of punishment only comes from the NCAA. In itself the FBI being involved doesn't mean the bluebloods will have a problem replacing coaches.

Also, if the NCAA is worried about themselves in this, do they try to toss a few programs under the bus to get leniency? The government and the FBI negotiate more than anyone

 

[Diggame]

I think the thing to watch with this scandal is what Addidas, Nike, and other shoe companies decide to do. At some point, being involved with a shady AAU system/college recruiting system just seems like it wouldn't be worth the risks for a large, multinational corporation.

Obviously it wouldn't clean up college athletics completely, but I do think the shoe thing has made basketball recruiting worse than almost anything else in college athletics.

How do you stop the tennis shoe company's though? they sponsor all of these teams and pay for a lot of campus faculties. You think they gonna let that money truck pull off. School's will leave the NCAA before they would let that happen.

Also AAU is apart of high school basketball so much?? Coaches use AAU to spot talent they would never have seen 20 years ago. They wouldn't know anything about "Walt Diggins" from South Dakota.

Nike and Addidas have way more power than to get caught up over 100K for a kid if you think this gonna take those organizations down kinda reevaluate the world we live in today

The horse has left the barn at this point you either adapt or die.

 

[Diggame]

Some of you all think just cause the Feds got involved that this is gonna somehow change college bball.

Too much money in college athletics not to be tempted by the duffle bag system.

People will still keep taking chances as long this is the system that we have in the NCAA

 

[Cyclone.TV]

While the FBI is leading the charge on this and will be doling out real penalties, that doesn't mean there won't be repercussions at the NCAA level as well. The FBI is doing the NCAA's job for them, using tools the NCAA doesn't have.

The FBI laying the smack down doesn't mean the NCAA can't hand out their own punishments as well.

I understand that, but if these kids aren't found by the FBI there is no way the NCAA finds them.

 

[jcyclonee]

Pitino behind bars would an amazing sight.

Well. We know the shower episodes wouldn't last long.

 

[CloniesForLife]

Well. We know the shower episodes wouldn't last long.

I was quite shocked at this statement from KC until I saw your screen name.

 

[jcyclonee]

I was quite shocked at this statement from KC until I saw your screen name.

It seems more appropriate coming from somebody that is less couth than KC. like me.

 

[CloneLawman]

It seems more appropriate coming from somebody that is less couth than KC. like me.

Agreed, ************!!

 

[CloneLawman]

Well. We know the shower episodes wouldn't last long.

But he would probably drop the soap a lot.

 

[CtownCyclone]

Did I miss the "Let's all use @ImJustKCClone 's orangutan" memo?

 

[ImJustKCClone]