If you read all those comments at the end of the article, half rag on "OMG! the ref was a husker, he's obviously against the buffs" If this was true, would an ex husker really be trying to give an advantage to those pesky cyclones in ames!?:unsure:
King ralphie won't be happy
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I love how thats the only thing they complain about. Especially since I thought the calls went both ways. Except for the no pass interference call, but we got one later in the game
I wonder if the big 12 official on Monday morning said anything to him about if he was not so greedy in both the 4 &1 play in the 3rd, or not kicking the field goal when he had 15-18 seconds left after the previous play he might have won the game, or at least got it to overtime?
Colorado fans have a right to whine about both of those and not the officials' calls at the end.
Colorado fans have a right to whine about both of those and not the officials' calls at the end.
Sorry, I meant to say I listened to it originally but recorded it also. After watching the replay numerous times I thought that the second snap was very close to getting off. Though I don't think it was. You can clearly see Clete wind his arm and the clock tick to :00, though the only thing I couldn't hear is the whistle by which the snapper goes off of ! The funniest part was watching the long snapper flip out out the official after the announcement that the game was over. I thought he was going to punch him!
They mentioned the adoption of the NFL rules for clock. Does anyone know exactly what they are trying to adopt, everything the NFL does or just spotting the ball? Personally, I'd love to see the longer play clock and instant play. Plus, I've never quite understood the stopping of the clock on first downs. It just means the chains guys might have to be in a little better shape. I'm not totally against the way the clock is run now, but, I have a feeling that if the NFL rules were in place already that CU never would have gotten a chance to kick the field goal at all. Remember earlier that a receiver cought a pass and was kept in bounds, but, got the first down, So, they had the benefit of the refs taking their time to spot the ball and wind the clock again. Notice, this is something they fail to mention in their argument. That the time it took for the spot for the field goal was probably similar to that they received for their first downs and clock stoppage. In the NFL you have to get out of bounds or it's over. As long as your guys are quick to the ball, it's not that way in college. As long as it's a first down, you can still go to the middle of the field. I was just wondering what others thoughts are on the current clock status in college.
Probably thought I wouldn't show my face, but hey, it's a momentous occasion, I had to.
I'm sure you'll be surprised to hear this, but I'm not at all satisfied with the Big XII's explanation of Saturday's events, not yet at least. They are welcome to explain that the calls on the field were technically within the rulebook, as they did.
What they failed to explain was how it took a referee 15 seconds to put a ball on a field and blow a whistle. What they failed to explain was why officials typically take less than 5 seconds to set the ball in a firedrill field goal situation, but in this game the officials took 3 times that long (and clearly would have happily taken longer, were it not for the fact that the game would have ended). What they failed to explain was why a former player from Nebraska is allowed to officiate games within Nebraska's conference, let alone in games featuring Nebraska's rival school (note: CU/NU is a rivalry game, NU/ISU is not).
For the record, Blakeman has officiated 2 games that CU played in this year, ISU and KSU - the ending of the Iowa State game was so horrifically managed that it sticks out in the mind a little bit more, but the Kansas State game was perhaps the most unfairly officiated contest I have ever seen in my life (among other glaring errors, CU had an 80 yard kickoff return nullified by a holding penalty that was called from 35 yards away, replays of the play showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that the player who was flagged did nothing even remotely resembling holding during that return).
So you have your victory in the sense that the calls made on the field were technically within the rules of the game, but that does not change the fact that there was no justification for the first call to have been made in the first place. Put a competent 7 year old on the field in that situation and the ball would have been set with 10 seconds to spare; put an incompetent Fusker on the field and it'll take at least twice that long.
Just further proof that you get the education that you pay for at Nebraska... assuming of course that you pay 4 cents per semester for your tuition.
May the deluge of negative rep begin...
I'm sure you'll be surprised to hear this, but I'm not at all satisfied with the Big XII's explanation of Saturday's events, not yet at least. They are welcome to explain that the calls on the field were technically within the rulebook, as they did.
What they failed to explain was how it took a referee 15 seconds to put a ball on a field and blow a whistle. What they failed to explain was why officials typically take less than 5 seconds to set the ball in a firedrill field goal situation, but in this game the officials took 3 times that long (and clearly would have happily taken longer, were it not for the fact that the game would have ended). What they failed to explain was why a former player from Nebraska is allowed to officiate games within Nebraska's conference, let alone in games featuring Nebraska's rival school (note: CU/NU is a rivalry game, NU/ISU is not).
For the record, Blakeman has officiated 2 games that CU played in this year, ISU and KSU - the ending of the Iowa State game was so horrifically managed that it sticks out in the mind a little bit more, but the Kansas State game was perhaps the most unfairly officiated contest I have ever seen in my life (among other glaring errors, CU had an 80 yard kickoff return nullified by a holding penalty that was called from 35 yards away, replays of the play showed beyond a shadow of a doubt that the player who was flagged did nothing even remotely resembling holding during that return).
So you have your victory in the sense that the calls made on the field were technically within the rules of the game, but that does not change the fact that there was no justification for the first call to have been made in the first place. Put a competent 7 year old on the field in that situation and the ball would have been set with 10 seconds to spare; put an incompetent Fusker on the field and it'll take at least twice that long.
Just further proof that you get the education that you pay for at Nebraska... assuming of course that you pay 4 cents per semester for your tuition.
May the deluge of negative rep begin...
Why should the officials hurry up to bail out poor clock management? The average time to set the ball is approximately 15 seconds. That's why the NFL adopted a 40-second play clock -- 15 seconds from the end of the play to the ready whistle, then the normal 25.
Hawkins could have opted to kick the 51-yarder (Eberhart has the leg, yes?) on 3rd down with no timeouts, but he didn't. And you lost because the receiver didn't get out of bounds.
Hawkins could have opted to kick the 51-yarder (Eberhart has the leg, yes?) on 3rd down with no timeouts, but he didn't. And you lost because the receiver didn't get out of bounds.
Whew. I'd rather have that than a win in the sense that the calls made on the field were technically not within the rules of the game, because boy would that be disheartening.
Look, ISU fans have been yelling at unfair or poor officiating for years. It's a cover-up for poor play. You don't blow a 21-0 lead and it's not even remotely an issue. You can blame a lot of things for the loss, but the primary problem lies on your sideline. You have a young, inexperienced QB and it showed last Saturday. He made a mistake. You guys lost the game because of it. It happens. Step up and take it like a man, instead of cowering behind the "it's the officials" excuse.
for the record, the ball WAS set... it takes time for the back and field judge to get in position underneath the goalpost ESPECIALLY since they didnt know what colorado was gonna do.. spike it.. kick it.. heck colorado didnt even know what they were doing, the WR that caught the ball stood over there and looked at the ref for 5 seconds before he realized that the field goal unit was coming on. Think about it. 17 seconds left when your WR hits the ground. clock ticking,, offense on field for 5 seconds confusion, field goal unit comes out.. refs try to get set. 4 seconds left CU line is set ball is snapped at 1 second remaining..... it was a good call. face it buddy.. go beat nebraska and go to a bowl and quit ********
It "might" have took awhile, because your d-bag players threw the ball, and took too long to get set.
Queen Ralphie whining that its team isn't allowed to cheat and rules-lawyer. Don't you have some granola to eat, or a sit-in protest to attend, smoking your weed?
LittleRalphy,
You're right! The game film clear shows NU AD Tom Osborne on the grassy knoll using mental telapathy to prevent the official from setting the ball down and blowing the whistle in a timely manner. Then, on the FG retry, the game film clearly shows Osborne using some Star Trek-like device to manipulate the game clock so that the last second ran off in over an actual time period of...1 second. Damn that Tom Osborne and those cheating Huskers!!
Good GoogaMooga...you've lost it. Your team choked. Get over it and move on...please...
You're right! The game film clear shows NU AD Tom Osborne on the grassy knoll using mental telapathy to prevent the official from setting the ball down and blowing the whistle in a timely manner. Then, on the FG retry, the game film clearly shows Osborne using some Star Trek-like device to manipulate the game clock so that the last second ran off in over an actual time period of...1 second. Damn that Tom Osborne and those cheating Huskers!!
Good GoogaMooga...you've lost it. Your team choked. Get over it and move on...please...
The officials should hurry up because that's what they're supposed to do in that situation. That's what officials always do in that situation (barring fattened pockets or incompetence, of course). Moving at a relaxed pace when the action on the field (from both sides) is frantic would be a decisive and deliberate action in favor of the team that's not kicking the field goal.
Eberhart is as erratic as they come, give him 100 chances to do what he did at the end of Saturday's game and he'll pull it off once. Attempting to move in closer was the obvious choice there, because as CU proved on Saturday, even if Colorado got tackled inbounds without getting a first down they'd still have plenty of time left to get a snap off before the clock expired. They just didn't prepare for the possibility of being screwed over by the officials, it's an easy enough mistake to make I suppose.
It was 4th down, do you honestly think they're going to spike the ball? The refs knew full well what Colorado was going to do.
The end of the game officiating was not only "technically" correct, it was also "professionally" correct. The conference officials coordinator made a point that it would be unfair to one team or the other if the crew made an efort to either speed up or slow down their normal game routine at a critical point in the game. In other words, establish a tempo and stick with it for the entire game.
The other point is that if there is any finger pointing to be done, it has to be directed twards the CU QB. Granted he didn't throw an INT or take a sack, but he did the next worst thing. He absolutely needed to either throw the ball beyond the 1st down marker or at least throw the ball away. He might have gotten away with his decision if it had not been for an outstanding play by James Smith. Let's give some credit to ISU winning the game rather than try to blame a young QB or a highly regarded referee.
Not to mention that same receiver threw the ball away, instead of handing it to an official. And also promptly lined up on the far side of the field instead of running straight off.
And I was wrong in one of my earlier posts. The 3rd down play began with 17 seconds on the clock. Probably only leaving 13 or 14 for ball to get set, teams changed and the play underway.
Just re-watched the game as well. I was rather skeptical of the game, after seeing it first hand. But after the replay, CU screwed themselves.
For the love of all that is great and fair in this world, GIVE IT UP please.
The refs are NOT "supposed to" hurry in that situation. They are supposed to do their job and they did it the way they should have -- not showing favoritism to either team. I would really like to see this replay. You make it sound like the refs were walking around like old cripples. Also, it's been mentioned that your player through the ball which delayed the refs from getting it set. Get over yourself. You lost.
