Not in the works. Never realistically considered for MOI wanted the concept high speed train to be approved for MO, but a different area was selected. I wonder if that project is still in motion...?
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Fancy Memphis is not a compliment.
Its not what I'd call a "world city" but it's still a major city/metro. I think a metro population of 2 million is probably the cutoff for major cities. Its basically like Cleveland, Cincinnati, Columbus, and Pittsburgh. Greater Nashville, Sacramento, and Vegas have similar populations too.
Super Bowl championships…
Oh wait, St Louis lost their team while the Chiefs have been the best NFL team of the decade.
They have lost 2 teams. The Big Red and the Rams. I actually went to a St. Louis Cardinals football game in the Kingdome out in Seattle in 1985. I was only 5 but still remember. Their ABA team the Spirits of St. Louis also didn't make the cut during the ABA/NBA merger. Having said that KC lost their NHL team the Scouts and NBA team the KC Kings.
I, for one, am shocked that a league full of large state universities outdraws a collection of mostly rural teacher's colleges and small private schools
In my experience the only real JoCo snob areas are Leawood and Mission Hills. Maybe PV is some parts. The bigger suburbs, not snobby.
Well if everything is just based on population then we’re not talking about the same things. Importance of the city should factor in amongst many other things. Nashville and Vegas are in the second tier. My rough list. Moved KC down to tier 3 actually.
Tier 1: NY, LA, Chicago, Miami, Seattle, Philly, DC, SF, Atlanta, Boston
Tier 2: Nashville, Vegas, Orlando, Portland, Minneapolis, Denver, Phoenix, San Diego, Dallas, Houston, Austin
Tier 3: KC ( very close to tier 2), St. Louis, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, Ohio 3C’s, New Orleans, Detroit, SLC, S.A., Indianapolis (barely, worse place to exist in the USA imo)
Tier 4: Sacramento, Grand Rapids, Jacksonville, Memphis, Baltimore, Buffalo, OKC, Providence, San Jose
Tier 5: Wichita, Omaha, Albuquerque, Tucson, Knoxville, Birmingham, Des Moines (barely, could be off the list), Boise, Louisville, Fresno, Madison
Didn’t rate: Honolulu, pretty unique situation there. Not an exhaustive list, just off the top of my head.
Some comparisons not brought up. (I live in KC Metro and have been to StL many, many times for both work and pleasure.)
KC - Foodwise, known for some of the best BBQ in the country, and a quickly growing and great "foodie" scene, and some fantastic higher-end restaurants that can compete with the best on both coasts, with a little bit lower cost. KC has Swope Park with a great outdoor theater and an OK zoo; however, the park is not a safe place to be unless you are right by the attractions. KC has one of the best (if not the best) symphony and performance hall in the country - the Kauffman Center for the Performing Arts. After all the improvements over the past 15 years KC has a great downtown and areas north and south of downtown, and is still growing and developing. Baseball - Kauffman Stadium is a fun place to see a ballgame, but the stadium itself has nothing around it at all and is also falling apart in the areas you can't see. Limited history with the Royals.
St. Louis - Foodwise, known for some great old-style italian restaurants and St. Louis Style Pizza. Not a very robust "foodie" scene and not very many higher-end restaruants. St. Louis has Forest Park, which has a better zoo and is much more developed than Swope Park. Also, not the safest part of town to be in after dark. St. Louis downtown is pretty dead and not developing much. Baseball - St. Louis is better in all aspects, one of the best stadiums in baseball, things to do around the stadium on game days, and a team deep in history. (And I hate the Cardinals as a die-hard Cubbies fan and a Royals fan, but gotta be honest here about the stadiums and teams).
KC - Foodwise, known for some of the best BBQ in the country, and a quickly growing and great "foodie" scene, and some fantastic higher-end restaurants that can compete with the best on both coasts, with a little bit lower cost. KC has Swope Park with a great outdoor theater and an OK zoo; however, the park is not a safe place to be unless you are right by the attractions. KC has one of the best (if not the best) symphony and performance hall in the country - the Kauffman Center for the Performing Arts. After all the improvements over the past 15 years KC has a great downtown and areas north and south of downtown, and is still growing and developing. Baseball - Kauffman Stadium is a fun place to see a ballgame, but the stadium itself has nothing around it at all and is also falling apart in the areas you can't see. Limited history with the Royals.
St. Louis - Foodwise, known for some great old-style italian restaurants and St. Louis Style Pizza. Not a very robust "foodie" scene and not very many higher-end restaruants. St. Louis has Forest Park, which has a better zoo and is much more developed than Swope Park. Also, not the safest part of town to be in after dark. St. Louis downtown is pretty dead and not developing much. Baseball - St. Louis is better in all aspects, one of the best stadiums in baseball, things to do around the stadium on game days, and a team deep in history. (And I hate the Cardinals as a die-hard Cubbies fan and a Royals fan, but gotta be honest here about the stadiums and teams).
Dont disagree much. Imo you have tier 1(world cities) New York, LA, Chicago, maybe Houston that ends the list. You have tier 2. MSP, Phoenix, Boston, Philly, DFW, San Fran, Seattle, several others
Tier 3 KC, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Sacramento, San Antonio, several others.
Tier 4 OKC, Louisville, Memphis, Salt Lake City, Tulsa, etc
Tier 5 Des Moines, Omaha, Grand Rapids, Spokane, etc.
Population carries a lot of weight with me. Fortune 500 companies and things like that come into play too.
What puts Grand Rapids in the same category as Memphis and Baltimore? That's seems like a hell of a stretch. Its Des Moines if was in Michigan to me. Great medium size city no doubt but thats what it is.
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Yeah they are worse than others but I feel like a lot of people in OP and Olathe still look down on people in Shawnee, Merriam, and maybe Lenexa are bit. OP and Olathe remind me of giant versions of the Jordan Creek area too much.
I despise KU sports but KU is a great school and KU med is the only reason my dad is still alive. One of the best hospitals in the US. Lawrence is a great college town. If Iowa City and Ames had a child it would look like Lawrence.
St. Louis is and always have been a Cardinals town, with a strong following of the Blues, while KC has always been a Chiefs town first and foremost, and the Royals are a distance second.
I believe the NHL or NBA team was “based” in KC for 3 years? but actually had home games in Omaha the final season….i think.
St. Louis “pizza” is an abomination.
They were the KC/Omaha Kings, much like the Packers did play games in Milwaukee and Green Bay, during the 80s and before.
The NBA then was not the NBA of today, and teams moved around looking for a solid place to call home.
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