Actually, you are kind of off on a lot of those "rankings". You should probably do some research instead of just pulling things out of thin air to make a point.
Kale Abrahamson "good vibes"
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Actually, you are kind of off on a lot of those "rankings". You should probably do some research instead of just pulling things out of thin air to make a point.
will blalock-#74, 4 star
rahshon clark-#67, 4 star
Curtis Stinson-#127, 3 star
Tasheed Carr-unranked 3 star
shawn taggart-#35, 4 star
Jackson Vroman-not even listed
tim barnes-???
fizer was a mcd's aa if memory serves
don't think tinsley was even listed
you be correct on mcdoormat's recruits
rahshon clark-#67, 4 star
Curtis Stinson-#127, 3 star
Tasheed Carr-unranked 3 star
shawn taggart-#35, 4 star
Jackson Vroman-not even listed
tim barnes-???
fizer was a mcd's aa if memory serves
don't think tinsley was even listed
you be correct on mcdoormat's recruits
I think Mad Fran Beyond Thunderdome is going to outlick, Lick.
Record-wise, Lick won the title but **** Schultz is still the worst BB coach in Iowa history.
And we have successfully derailed our post topic on Kale and went from him to weiners (Fran), to terrible coaches. Yet in a way it is all relevant haha. 
Plus, if you google "weiner", about the closest/safest you'll get is results of that dude tweeting his jockey shorts.
That was my intention on the post response. I didn't think anyone would take it for anything more. Guess I should have gone ahead and picked one of those smiley guys to make sure.
No worries, I got the joke, just adding on with a little current events humor. Plus, weiner.
It will be a major shock if that happens. The guy won a whopping 11 games yet their attendance shot up, big time. They have gotten behind this guy more quickly than I thought so he's doing something right. I've noticed he actually has a personality unlike Lick.
As for Abrahamson, I've seen him play a few times. Meh. He's not a difference maker in the Big XII but you need both glue guys and stars.
I agree with this, only getting one of those guys wouldn't really warrant too much excitement or be out of the ordinary for what ISU traditionally brings in but bringing in a handful of solid high school kids is very exciting. Even at our best we relied heavily on jucos to make an impact, I don't mind that but its nice to see high school kids with other options showing interest in ISU.
I've never seen a group of fans so amazed by a rivals coach. Fran the Man may turn out to be a great coach for Iowa, but he has done NOTHING to prove it yet. They were awful last year. Awful. His recruiting is suspect at best.
There is no reason for any of us to kiss Iowa's *** in regards to Fran.
There is no reason for any of us to kiss Iowa's *** in regards to Fran.
For the most part, we're being cordial. Our program i clearly ahead of theirs so we see no reason to bash them. I just remember every dbag Iowa fan I've ever met and it makes it pretty easy to pile on their pathetic situation. Fran isn't Lick but he isn't much better. That program is in a BIG hole.
Not widely enought to matter here!:smile: Besides, we had scoreboard and record. Neither team was a world beater, and both lost games they easily could have won. I wouldn't trade programs. They likely feel the same way.
WIW = zero. Kenpom had ISU at 81, Iowa at 80. Given the state/direction of Iowa's program it's hard to see that number improving too dramatically next year, while ISU is poised for a significant bump.
The fact is both teams were bad this year, but only one will be next year
They also had KU ranked 3rd. How did that work out? Who gives a crap about a computer ranking after the tournament ? We beat Iowa in their house. We finished with 5 more wins, and they were not nearly as competitive in many of their losses as we were.
Don't put too much emphasis on one game when a season is 30+ games. Iowa had a better conference record in a tougher conference; ISU won the head-to-head. Unbiased rankings had the two teams neck-and-neck. It just seems silly to me to act like ISU was far superior to Iowa last season.
Fine you win. When you input these two teams' numbers into an algorithm, they are very similar.
That is where the similarities end, IMO. So far, Fred has shown that his players are very excited to play for him and he seems to be increasing talent at a faster pace. Time will tell obviously, but I'm very certain that ISU will climb out faster and further than Iowa.
If you were an Iowa HS b-ball player with no real allegiances, who would you rather play for? So far, I'll take the players that Fred has assembled over the guys Fran has put together.
